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LTC Stephen F.
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Thank you my friend SSG(P) (Join to see) for posting a pertinant question.
Affirmative Action used to be focused on race/national origin/gender. The the last dozen or so years Affirmative Action has been used to advocate raising up individuals from groups based on sexual preference/alignment, illegal aliens, and others.
This Supreme Court case is focused on state university admission practises. I doubt the SCOTUS will apply their decision in any broad manner to imapct the military. [perhaps ROTC practices]

The video does not support the point of view that the military leadership is Woke yet the participants discuss the issues.


1. As a graduate of USMA I disagree with the Army Times article statement that the military service acadamies use Affirmative Action in selecting which candidates become cadets.

2. I do not believe that affirmative action per se is used at the Service academies. However Critical Race Theory has been included in the service academy curricula.
3. My take is that affirmative action is not used to select cadets or mishipmen. However including CRT in curricula may result in service academy graduates using some variant of affirmative action in their military leadsership duties.. I hope that will not be used to creat eany bias - but I expect some will embrace the CRT bias.

Milley's "WOKE" CRT Speech Has MSM APOPLECTIC, Grifters Capitalize On Incomprehension
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA06cXKHfNU

I did a brief search to confirm my suspicians about the article you posted.
1. Caveat I graduated with the first USMA class that included women as cadets and our first captain was Vince Brooks who I beleive was the first black first captain in USMA history.

"Still, among service academies, admissions qualifications must be met regardless of race. They not only include the need for high academic standings, but also consistent displays of leadership and the ability to meet physical fitness standards, Lt. Col. Timothy Viles, Deputy director for the West Point’s Admissions Department told Task & Purpose in an interview.
He added that while West Point does use race as a determinant in its appointment process, it doesn’t in any way negate the need for cadets to have comparable standings among their peers of any other race, religion, or gender.
“I wouldn’t say that affirmative action plays a role in the appointment process,” Viles said. “We fill our classes with the best young men and women from across our nation, focused on really maximizing diversity and talent across all domains.”
For example, the class of 2016 just graduated roughly 1,150 cadet candidates, including more than 322 minorities, 15 international cadets, and 35 combat veterans. And last year’s incoming class, which will graduate in 2019, is the most diverse most in the academy’s 214-year history. But the service academy — moreover, the Army officer corps — still has room for improvement in terms of promoting diversity, according to Viles."
“Our challenge in promoting diversity is making the public aware of the outstanding men and women, who on a daily basis, are out there sacrificing for our nation,” he added.
Viles suggested the best recruitment tool that West Point has at its disposal is the current cadets, whose diverse stories inspire people from all walks of life to aspire to the levels of greatness that a service academy can offer.
Moreover, the military at-large has taken up a charge to inspire diversification among all its ranks. This year alone, the Defense Department opened all combat positions to women, and also lifted the ban on transgender troops.
Additionally, according to the most recent census survey, the national ethnic demographics show that 77.1% identify as white, 13.3% identify as black or African-American, 17.6% identify as Hispanic, 5.6% identify as Asian, and 4% identify as other or two races. But among active-duty enlisted service members, ethnic diversity exceeds the national percentages. Only 67% identify as white, while the rest identify as minorities or as two or more races.'

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I appreciate your opinion sir, but under the constitution, all men are created equal, so I think if the Supreme Court rules that Affirmative Action is unconstitutional, the military would also have to do away with the practice. IMHO, if the officer corps or the academies aren't diverse enough, that means not a lot of minority men and women meet the requirements to enter the academies or become officers, and/or they don't want to be officers or enter academy. If they meet the requirements, great, give them the job, but if it's between two equally qualified people or a non-minority is more qualified than a minority, affirmative action shouldn't be used to give the position to the minority to diversify the officer corps or the academies. If they're equally qualified, have a independent group of equally diverse people make the determination with the caveat that race cannot be a factor. Should go for civilian employment also. Additionally, all positions or promotions that require a packet or application should be independently reviewed to ensure that someone isn't being given a position due to the good ol boy narritive either.
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It is highly unlikley that the Supreme Court would issue a broadside decision declaring that 'Afirmative Action' is unconstitutional SSG(P) (Join to see) that would impact every state, federal and state laws hiring laws, corporate and non-profit businesses and organizations.
I expect they will limit their decision to the state university ROTC program application decision processes.
The SCOTUS avoids rulings that have widespread implications without a remedy. Generally they do not legislate from the bench in this Chief Justice Roberts SCOTUS era. Rather they would send it back to the federal legislature or in this case state legislatures to legislate based on their ruling.
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For the last fifty plus years I can personally attest to, AA has been the most entrenched example of the "systemic racism" so often refered to these days.
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Chief Justice Roberts, in the Supreme Court's 2007 Parents Involved decision:

"The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race."
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