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I believe in the Battle of Gettysburg , The Reason that Lee did not form another attack after the 3rd of Juky is that he did not want to risk more men and give the Union Army a victory on the 4th of July.
It simply had too much significance and too much of a possible morale boost for the Union if he were to lose the battle.
It simply had too much significance and too much of a possible morale boost for the Union if he were to lose the battle.
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Based on Kent Masterson Brown's award winning 2005 book, "Retreat From Gettysburg: Lee, Logistics, and the Pennsylvania Campaign," this documentary about a c...
I think you should have tagged humor my friend and brother-in-Christ Amn Dale Preisach Robert E Lee and the soldiers of the Army of Northern Virginia were fighting for independence from what they considered a tyrannical federal government. There grandfathers and some of their fathers fought during the revolutionary war.
Winning a battle is something newspapers and historians tend to focus on. Individual soldiers and their leaders generally were not concerned about significance of historical dates in the 1860s.
1. Robert E Lee was a brilliant strategist and he recognized that his army had lost too many men and leaders to overcome the Federal strategic defenses by July 3, 1863.
2. He had reprimanded one of his most brilliant lieutenants, his cavalry commander CSA MG J.E.B. Stuart who arrived late at Gettysburg with his forces because he and had "men were off raiding various towns in Pennsylvania, causing considerable panic and disruption. But those adventures were not helping Lee at all. Lee, of course, was frustrated, forced to move in enemy territory without his cavalry to serve as his eyes." [text in quotes from thoughtco.com/cavalry-fight-battle-of-gettysburg-1773731]
3. This was his second and final attempt to bring the battle to enemy territory where he little support in Pennsylvania [the limit of confederate support was in Maryland which still supported slavery
4. He had led the bloodied Army of Northern Virginia to Antietam the previous year.
5. He was wise enough to realize the best offense is a good defense since the Battle of Chancellorsville, April 30 – May 6, 1863 and Battle of Fredericksburg, December 11–15, 1862.
6. With the exception of the western theater where MG U.S. Grant was engaging in total warfare to a greater extent, the eastern theater was not yet engaged in total warfare.
RETREAT FROM GETTYSBURG
Based on Kent Masterson Brown's award winning 2005 book, "Retreat From Gettysburg: Lee, Logistics, and the Pennsylvania Campaign," this documentary about a critical moment in the American Civil War takes the viewer on the very roads used by Lee's Army and its immense wagon trains, as well as the key sites along those roads, where Lee established defenses that delayed or defeated advances by General Meade's Union forces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZxlbynrHA0
FYI LTC Trent Klug SFC Ralph E Kelley COL (Join to see) LTC Stephen C. Maj William W. 'Bill' Price SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SFC William Farrell COL Randall Cudworth PO3 Edward Riddle SSG Bill McCoy CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025 SSG Jeffrey Leake MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. PV2 Scott M.LTC Thomas TennantPV2 Larry Sellnow LTC Stephen Conway
Thank you my friend and sister-in-Christ Lt Col Charlie Brown for mentioning me.
Winning a battle is something newspapers and historians tend to focus on. Individual soldiers and their leaders generally were not concerned about significance of historical dates in the 1860s.
1. Robert E Lee was a brilliant strategist and he recognized that his army had lost too many men and leaders to overcome the Federal strategic defenses by July 3, 1863.
2. He had reprimanded one of his most brilliant lieutenants, his cavalry commander CSA MG J.E.B. Stuart who arrived late at Gettysburg with his forces because he and had "men were off raiding various towns in Pennsylvania, causing considerable panic and disruption. But those adventures were not helping Lee at all. Lee, of course, was frustrated, forced to move in enemy territory without his cavalry to serve as his eyes." [text in quotes from thoughtco.com/cavalry-fight-battle-of-gettysburg-1773731]
3. This was his second and final attempt to bring the battle to enemy territory where he little support in Pennsylvania [the limit of confederate support was in Maryland which still supported slavery
4. He had led the bloodied Army of Northern Virginia to Antietam the previous year.
5. He was wise enough to realize the best offense is a good defense since the Battle of Chancellorsville, April 30 – May 6, 1863 and Battle of Fredericksburg, December 11–15, 1862.
6. With the exception of the western theater where MG U.S. Grant was engaging in total warfare to a greater extent, the eastern theater was not yet engaged in total warfare.
RETREAT FROM GETTYSBURG
Based on Kent Masterson Brown's award winning 2005 book, "Retreat From Gettysburg: Lee, Logistics, and the Pennsylvania Campaign," this documentary about a critical moment in the American Civil War takes the viewer on the very roads used by Lee's Army and its immense wagon trains, as well as the key sites along those roads, where Lee established defenses that delayed or defeated advances by General Meade's Union forces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZxlbynrHA0
FYI LTC Trent Klug SFC Ralph E Kelley COL (Join to see) LTC Stephen C. Maj William W. 'Bill' Price SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SFC William Farrell COL Randall Cudworth PO3 Edward Riddle SSG Bill McCoy CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025 SSG Jeffrey Leake MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. PV2 Scott M.LTC Thomas TennantPV2 Larry Sellnow LTC Stephen Conway
Thank you my friend and sister-in-Christ Lt Col Charlie Brown for mentioning me.
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LTC Stephen F.
Why did you mention fool - I never did? Amn Dale Preisach Robert E. Lee was the superintendent for my alma mater - USMA West Point. He was honorable and a brother-in-Christ. His goal was to bring the union to the point of negotiating a peace by carrying the war to their breadbasket. He was not focused on terrorizing the civil population.
1. All of the land that was fought in was part of the United States of America ][exception being the territories where CSA allied native Americans attacked federal officers and civilians - to a lesser extent same for the Federal-allied native American.
2. By and large common soldiers fought on behalf of those they served with not because of political aspirations - families were divided from Tennessee through Kentucky, Virginia and Maryland.
3. Colonel John Singleton Mosby operated in confederate areas and he never terrorized the local populations - possible exception of West Virginia which had abandoned the confederacy.
4.However William Clarke Quantrill did focus on terror. That was the legacy of Kansas-Missouri are which experienced - from John Brown through William Clarke Quantrill the Kansas-Missouri section of this nation had many bandits and political generals such as James Henry Lane [once a militia leader].
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1. The south had some great generals - Robert E. Lee, Thomas Stonewall Jackson and J.E.B Stuart. General Joseph Eggleston Johnston was able; but, he was sidelined quickly. He was the senior CSA general and his departure opened the way for Robert E. Lee to command the Army of Northern Virginia.
2. Many of the senior officers and a number of junior officers on both sides had been trained at USMA West Point and were familiar with their counterpart's capabilities as cadets and later during the Seminole Wars and Mexican American War.
3. Both north and south had able generals very able generals and men who served honorably with some particularly in the confederacy who served more like Nazi's such as Pierre Gustave Toutant-Beauregard.
4. the north had political generals as well like George B. McClellan...
5. Soldiers since ancient Rome have generally fought for those who served on their left and right especially infantry, cavalry, and recon forces.
What do you think? LTC Trent Klug MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Lt Col Charlie Brown SFC William Farrell PV2 Scott M. MSgt Gloria Vance CPT (Join to see) MSgt James Parker MSgt (Join to see) CPT Kevin McComas SPC Maurice Evans SFC Ralph E Kelley LTC Stephen C. COL Randall Cudworth COL Lisandro Murphy COL (Join to see) Maj William W. 'Bill' Price 1stSgt Eugene Harless
1. All of the land that was fought in was part of the United States of America ][exception being the territories where CSA allied native Americans attacked federal officers and civilians - to a lesser extent same for the Federal-allied native American.
2. By and large common soldiers fought on behalf of those they served with not because of political aspirations - families were divided from Tennessee through Kentucky, Virginia and Maryland.
3. Colonel John Singleton Mosby operated in confederate areas and he never terrorized the local populations - possible exception of West Virginia which had abandoned the confederacy.
4.However William Clarke Quantrill did focus on terror. That was the legacy of Kansas-Missouri are which experienced - from John Brown through William Clarke Quantrill the Kansas-Missouri section of this nation had many bandits and political generals such as James Henry Lane [once a militia leader].
B.
1. The south had some great generals - Robert E. Lee, Thomas Stonewall Jackson and J.E.B Stuart. General Joseph Eggleston Johnston was able; but, he was sidelined quickly. He was the senior CSA general and his departure opened the way for Robert E. Lee to command the Army of Northern Virginia.
2. Many of the senior officers and a number of junior officers on both sides had been trained at USMA West Point and were familiar with their counterpart's capabilities as cadets and later during the Seminole Wars and Mexican American War.
3. Both north and south had able generals very able generals and men who served honorably with some particularly in the confederacy who served more like Nazi's such as Pierre Gustave Toutant-Beauregard.
4. the north had political generals as well like George B. McClellan...
5. Soldiers since ancient Rome have generally fought for those who served on their left and right especially infantry, cavalry, and recon forces.
What do you think? LTC Trent Klug MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Lt Col Charlie Brown SFC William Farrell PV2 Scott M. MSgt Gloria Vance CPT (Join to see) MSgt James Parker MSgt (Join to see) CPT Kevin McComas SPC Maurice Evans SFC Ralph E Kelley LTC Stephen C. COL Randall Cudworth COL Lisandro Murphy COL (Join to see) Maj William W. 'Bill' Price 1stSgt Eugene Harless
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Amn Dale Preisach
LTC Stephen F. mosby terrorized the Union calvary/ military squads and relied on the Civilians to help hide/ supply his forces. He kept a great many Union soldiers busy trying to find him and him finding them to his advantage much of the time. One close call was when he encountered what he thought was a small detachment of Union Soldiers/ cavalry and whether it was he or one of his officers , they attacked the detachment. Unknowingly striking a tail end of a much larger force. He managed to inflict losses and disappear into the countryside.
I believe he was nearly captured at a home of one of his family friend's home by Union forces looking for him.
I believe he was nearly captured at a home of one of his family friend's home by Union forces looking for him.
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Amn Dale Preisach
LTC Stephen F. i agree with you on most points. I've re iterated what i believe i was mistakenly thought of as insulting Lee/ Mosby.
In another reply.
I had family that fought on both sides of the Civil War. Both sides had tepid/ reckless /brave Daring/ Genius Commanders. Such is the fortunes of a War . Lincoln had to spur on McClellan by visiting or telegraphing him a story of how as a child Lincoln played a game called 3 times round and out. Referring to McClellan having his whole force and boundaries surveilled by The Confederate Troops about. I believe it was Lincoln's way of saying if it happens again he'd replace McClellan. He was Grateful for McClellan's organizational skills. But as a fighter McClellan seemed perhaps tepid or begrudgingly had to be nearly ordered to fight. I don't know. General Ambrose and Burnsides were other leaders that you like or not at the time.
So many of either side's Military Leaders were Classmates or classmen of West Point . So i can see how it would be difficult to go up against a fellow cadet and friend.
In another reply.
I had family that fought on both sides of the Civil War. Both sides had tepid/ reckless /brave Daring/ Genius Commanders. Such is the fortunes of a War . Lincoln had to spur on McClellan by visiting or telegraphing him a story of how as a child Lincoln played a game called 3 times round and out. Referring to McClellan having his whole force and boundaries surveilled by The Confederate Troops about. I believe it was Lincoln's way of saying if it happens again he'd replace McClellan. He was Grateful for McClellan's organizational skills. But as a fighter McClellan seemed perhaps tepid or begrudgingly had to be nearly ordered to fight. I don't know. General Ambrose and Burnsides were other leaders that you like or not at the time.
So many of either side's Military Leaders were Classmates or classmen of West Point . So i can see how it would be difficult to go up against a fellow cadet and friend.
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Amn Dale Preisach
LTC Stephen F. i didn't mean to infer you said i said he was a fool. I just stated it in agreement to your point of his brilliance as a leader. It was the quickest way to put out a brushfire / clarify quickly my overall belief in Lee's Wizardry on the battlefield . Stating it the way that i did was to put to rest the misconception that happened as you did put down the part of should have been tagged as humor.
I took that to be you believed i was downing Lee when i was stating how wise he was.
I took that to be you believed i was downing Lee when i was stating how wise he was.
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I'm thinking he didn't have the forces available. After all, the South's forced took a good mauling.
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Amn Dale Preisach
All the more reason to withdraw and not give the enemy a boost in " national" morale if he lost. It would have been a Pyrrhic victory if he did prevail - he could not fortify nor hold nor even supply his army , even though the victory was won. Fresh troops would have been on their way from everywhere in the Union to dislodge him. He may have been taken prisoner/ killed. Then the War would have been shortened dramatically by his absence .
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