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This is perfect for today- I think of modesty every time I watch sports and the athletes showboat. Vince Lombardi said it best and the quote attached is worth 1,000 words. The showboat takes away from the others that helped them achieve that goal. I chose to heed HST words: "It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit." Happy Sunday RP
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PO2 John Zodun
Well said brother Marty Sir no words are as true as those thanks for sharing and for mentioning me
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LTC Stephen F.
I pray that you and I treat each person with honor and stand up for the modest and protect them as best we can from bullies large and small, my friend and brother-in-Christ Maj Marty Hogan.
Thank YOU, LORD for YOUR Word. Thank YOU for humility and compassion which YOU honor.
I pray for modesty to abound in families and among friends. I thank YOU LORD that YOU give grace to the humble and YOU are opposed to the proud.
Do what it takes to the producers of TV, cable, movies and shows to have them respect modesty for actors, actresses and viewers in daytime and evening shows. Shake up those advertisers who use sexual attraction of children to sell their products.
I lift each school districts in this nation and I pray that administrators, school boards, teachers and parents are working to honor the modesty of young children through middle school at least. I pray that school districts are supporting the rule that birth gender of students for restrooms and shower facilities and limiting students based on their actual gender.
I pray for humility, compassion and selfless love to blossom in families across the Body of Christ.
I pray that each one of YOUR adopted children and their loved ones sleep well tonight.
By the power and authority of the Name above all names, Jesus the Christ.
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Thank YOU, LORD for YOUR Word. Thank YOU for humility and compassion which YOU honor.
I pray for modesty to abound in families and among friends. I thank YOU LORD that YOU give grace to the humble and YOU are opposed to the proud.
Do what it takes to the producers of TV, cable, movies and shows to have them respect modesty for actors, actresses and viewers in daytime and evening shows. Shake up those advertisers who use sexual attraction of children to sell their products.
I lift each school districts in this nation and I pray that administrators, school boards, teachers and parents are working to honor the modesty of young children through middle school at least. I pray that school districts are supporting the rule that birth gender of students for restrooms and shower facilities and limiting students based on their actual gender.
I pray for humility, compassion and selfless love to blossom in families across the Body of Christ.
I pray that each one of YOUR adopted children and their loved ones sleep well tonight.
By the power and authority of the Name above all names, Jesus the Christ.
FYI SMSgt Lawrence McCarter SSG William Jones PO1 Robert George SP5 Jeannie Carle SGT Steve McFarland COL Mikel J. Burroughs SGT Wanda Shepherd SPC Michael Oles SR (Join to see)
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Good morning my RP Family. The term modest is so often just thought of with how we dress, particularly how women dress. This is especially true in areas of religion. But modesty is so much more. I went searching for more on this topic and found the following below that I thought addressed this issue very nicely. Have a blessed day today and always.
Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
Taken from desiringgod.org
Modesty Misunderstood
What Men and Women Need to Know
Article by Meggie Cotonethal
Guest Contributor
“Modesty” must be one of the most abused words in the Christianese dialect.
The idea of modesty has been almost exclusively attached to women’s dress, narrowing in definition to mean “showing less skin and trying to prevent sexual arousal in those looking on.” It has veritably become a subculture in Christendom, spawning a cacophony of bestsellers, brands, seminars, and internet firestorms.
In 1 Timothy 2:9, Paul uses the word kosmios to describe how a woman should present herself, which is translated as “modest” or “respectable.” Kosmios is related to the word cosmos and connotes orderliness and propriety. Paul also uses the same word in 1 Timothy 3:2, which outlines the qualities men need to have to be overseers, and there it is translated as “respectable” (some versions say, “of good behavior”).
Clearly, modesty is not just a woman’s issue, and the Enemy of our souls would delight to see us reduce it to such. Consider how he’s expertly used our largely male-focused exhortations on lust to convince many women to fearfully hide their sin from the exposing light of confession, or to delude them into thinking their hungry, wandering eyes can’t be lust simply because they aren’t men.
Likewise, our stripped-down definition of the weighty and fearsome virtue of modesty gives our Enemy the opportunity to ply the same tired ploy against our brothers. Men have every bit of opportunity to be modest or immodest as their sisters, and that should be both a joy and a warning to them.
Offspring of Humility
“Modesty is not just a woman’s issue, and our Enemy delights in the fact that we think it is.” Tweet Share on Facebook
Modesty is the offspring of humility. Humility is evaluating ourselves properly, with sober judgment (Romans 12:3). Modesty is behavior that flows out of remembering our true place of service, and does not conceitedly boast about the self, but boasts in God (Philippians 2:3–4; 2 Corinthians 10:17). Modesty, or the lack thereof, reveals where we’ve placed our identity. Rich women in the ancient world arrogantly declared their high status, their value, their identity with expensive finery. How do we go about boasting in ourselves today?
We live in an identity-addicted society. We strive to put our tastes and acquisitions on display so that everyone knows who we are. We’re told to accentuate our best features, get what we want out of life, stand up for and express ourselves. Social media is often the megaphone we use to herald our personal identity and covertly brag about our smarts, body, sexuality, culture, politics, sports, relationships, family, insecurities, experiences, and possessions.
Modesty Like the Messiah
Conversely, Christians are called to make much of Christ, to make him our identity. Our manner and appearance should be so empty of self that others don’t have to make an effort to forget what we wore, or our particular hairstyle, or what stuff we possess.
It’s easy to see our immodesty when we contrast it with the human life of our Lord and Master. There was no fuss over his physical appearance (Isaiah 53:2). He laid down his life for those less important than him (John 10:11). He was submissive as a lamb to the slaughter (Isaiah 53:7). And expressed only what his Father instructed (John 12:49).
And he was God.
He was not the gaudy military leader the Jews expected. They asked Jesus, “Who are you?” (John 8:25). His answers culminate with the declaration, “Before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58). The whole world was made by and through him, yet he made himself nothing. Jesus was fully modest as he was lifted up, raw and naked, on a cross.
I am. Do our lives proclaim him? Are we willing to be just another wallflower that clings to the Cornerstone, letting our presence here on earth only serve to draw attention to him?
True Modesty
Modesty in dress is a subset of modesty that needs to be addressed. Both Paul and Peter instruct women to not be superfluous in their dress so that no adornment outshines the act of modesty: doing good and not fearing what is frightening (1 Peter 3:6; 1 Timothy 2:10). Modesty, in essence, is to put on Christ (Romans 13:14).
If we’re dressing “modest” to be the hottest, we fail to be modest. Women may cover their cleavage and thighs just enough, yet make sure to put on an eye-popping necklace designed to draw compliments, lovelessly nitpick the “immodest” clothing choices of weaker Christians, or post a meticulously posed Instagram picture featuring her latest workout or Bible-journaling session. Are we dressing “immodestly” in more subtle ways for accolades, approval, and attention?
“Just because I wouldn’t dare to touch a spaghetti strap didn’t mean I wasn’t determined to be noticed.” Tweet Share on Facebook
I know that has been true of me. As a girl, I devoured every book on the modesty shelf at my local Christian bookstore. I grew to be technically “modest,” with a conceited heart that was honestly anything but. Even though I wouldn’t dare to touch a spaghetti strap, that didn’t mean I wasn’t determined to be noticed. Over time, the Holy Spirit prompted me to realize that my misunderstanding of modesty was not transforming me into the Proverbs 31 poster girl of the modesty movement, but instead into the likeness of the woman in Proverbs 11:22 (just the pig, no nose ring).
Value of True Modesty
Real Christians love to fade into the background, serving the needs of others, asking Jesus to take center stage. We’ve been freed to have a truly modest, nondescript life and countenance, which will make the world wonder why we’re not fighting for our social status and incidental preferences. Perhaps we can be so liberated from human approval and praise that they begin to inquire, “Who are you?”
And we can respond, “I am not my own, for I was bought with a price. I belong to God” (1 Corinthians 6:19–20; Romans 14:8).
The virtue of modesty, in dress and holistically, is much more offensive, pride-shattering, and worthwhile than any “thou shalt not’s” issued by the religious department of the fashion police. It may indeed mean that a woman ought to decide to clean out her jewelry box, no longer spend hundreds of dollars on makeup each year, or discard clothes that are essentially a second layer of skin. But to say that’s the crux of modesty is a great disservice.
Living modestly is to proclaim what is proper, just like the orderly cosmos. “Not to us, O Lord, not to us, but to your name give glory, for the sake of your steadfast love and your faithfulness!” (Psalm 115:1). Our true glory is only uncovered as we shout with joy about him.
Meggie Cotonethal (@rpmcotonethal) is a slave of Christ, an ecclesiastical history enthusiast, and a servant for the W.I.S.E. Women’s Network Bible studies in Northern California.
Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
Taken from desiringgod.org
Modesty Misunderstood
What Men and Women Need to Know
Article by Meggie Cotonethal
Guest Contributor
“Modesty” must be one of the most abused words in the Christianese dialect.
The idea of modesty has been almost exclusively attached to women’s dress, narrowing in definition to mean “showing less skin and trying to prevent sexual arousal in those looking on.” It has veritably become a subculture in Christendom, spawning a cacophony of bestsellers, brands, seminars, and internet firestorms.
In 1 Timothy 2:9, Paul uses the word kosmios to describe how a woman should present herself, which is translated as “modest” or “respectable.” Kosmios is related to the word cosmos and connotes orderliness and propriety. Paul also uses the same word in 1 Timothy 3:2, which outlines the qualities men need to have to be overseers, and there it is translated as “respectable” (some versions say, “of good behavior”).
Clearly, modesty is not just a woman’s issue, and the Enemy of our souls would delight to see us reduce it to such. Consider how he’s expertly used our largely male-focused exhortations on lust to convince many women to fearfully hide their sin from the exposing light of confession, or to delude them into thinking their hungry, wandering eyes can’t be lust simply because they aren’t men.
Likewise, our stripped-down definition of the weighty and fearsome virtue of modesty gives our Enemy the opportunity to ply the same tired ploy against our brothers. Men have every bit of opportunity to be modest or immodest as their sisters, and that should be both a joy and a warning to them.
Offspring of Humility
“Modesty is not just a woman’s issue, and our Enemy delights in the fact that we think it is.” Tweet Share on Facebook
Modesty is the offspring of humility. Humility is evaluating ourselves properly, with sober judgment (Romans 12:3). Modesty is behavior that flows out of remembering our true place of service, and does not conceitedly boast about the self, but boasts in God (Philippians 2:3–4; 2 Corinthians 10:17). Modesty, or the lack thereof, reveals where we’ve placed our identity. Rich women in the ancient world arrogantly declared their high status, their value, their identity with expensive finery. How do we go about boasting in ourselves today?
We live in an identity-addicted society. We strive to put our tastes and acquisitions on display so that everyone knows who we are. We’re told to accentuate our best features, get what we want out of life, stand up for and express ourselves. Social media is often the megaphone we use to herald our personal identity and covertly brag about our smarts, body, sexuality, culture, politics, sports, relationships, family, insecurities, experiences, and possessions.
Modesty Like the Messiah
Conversely, Christians are called to make much of Christ, to make him our identity. Our manner and appearance should be so empty of self that others don’t have to make an effort to forget what we wore, or our particular hairstyle, or what stuff we possess.
It’s easy to see our immodesty when we contrast it with the human life of our Lord and Master. There was no fuss over his physical appearance (Isaiah 53:2). He laid down his life for those less important than him (John 10:11). He was submissive as a lamb to the slaughter (Isaiah 53:7). And expressed only what his Father instructed (John 12:49).
And he was God.
He was not the gaudy military leader the Jews expected. They asked Jesus, “Who are you?” (John 8:25). His answers culminate with the declaration, “Before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58). The whole world was made by and through him, yet he made himself nothing. Jesus was fully modest as he was lifted up, raw and naked, on a cross.
I am. Do our lives proclaim him? Are we willing to be just another wallflower that clings to the Cornerstone, letting our presence here on earth only serve to draw attention to him?
True Modesty
Modesty in dress is a subset of modesty that needs to be addressed. Both Paul and Peter instruct women to not be superfluous in their dress so that no adornment outshines the act of modesty: doing good and not fearing what is frightening (1 Peter 3:6; 1 Timothy 2:10). Modesty, in essence, is to put on Christ (Romans 13:14).
If we’re dressing “modest” to be the hottest, we fail to be modest. Women may cover their cleavage and thighs just enough, yet make sure to put on an eye-popping necklace designed to draw compliments, lovelessly nitpick the “immodest” clothing choices of weaker Christians, or post a meticulously posed Instagram picture featuring her latest workout or Bible-journaling session. Are we dressing “immodestly” in more subtle ways for accolades, approval, and attention?
“Just because I wouldn’t dare to touch a spaghetti strap didn’t mean I wasn’t determined to be noticed.” Tweet Share on Facebook
I know that has been true of me. As a girl, I devoured every book on the modesty shelf at my local Christian bookstore. I grew to be technically “modest,” with a conceited heart that was honestly anything but. Even though I wouldn’t dare to touch a spaghetti strap, that didn’t mean I wasn’t determined to be noticed. Over time, the Holy Spirit prompted me to realize that my misunderstanding of modesty was not transforming me into the Proverbs 31 poster girl of the modesty movement, but instead into the likeness of the woman in Proverbs 11:22 (just the pig, no nose ring).
Value of True Modesty
Real Christians love to fade into the background, serving the needs of others, asking Jesus to take center stage. We’ve been freed to have a truly modest, nondescript life and countenance, which will make the world wonder why we’re not fighting for our social status and incidental preferences. Perhaps we can be so liberated from human approval and praise that they begin to inquire, “Who are you?”
And we can respond, “I am not my own, for I was bought with a price. I belong to God” (1 Corinthians 6:19–20; Romans 14:8).
The virtue of modesty, in dress and holistically, is much more offensive, pride-shattering, and worthwhile than any “thou shalt not’s” issued by the religious department of the fashion police. It may indeed mean that a woman ought to decide to clean out her jewelry box, no longer spend hundreds of dollars on makeup each year, or discard clothes that are essentially a second layer of skin. But to say that’s the crux of modesty is a great disservice.
Living modestly is to proclaim what is proper, just like the orderly cosmos. “Not to us, O Lord, not to us, but to your name give glory, for the sake of your steadfast love and your faithfulness!” (Psalm 115:1). Our true glory is only uncovered as we shout with joy about him.
Meggie Cotonethal (@rpmcotonethal) is a slave of Christ, an ecclesiastical history enthusiast, and a servant for the W.I.S.E. Women’s Network Bible studies in Northern California.
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PO1 H Gene Lawrence
PO1 Kevin Dougherty - this one really confounds me. I have someone my wife and I have been working with. This person will not follow any recommendations to make life improvements and continually lies about doing or not doing things. Their health is going downward and they are over medicating. This person refuses to change so that there is improvement in most areas of their life. We are beating our heads against the wall. Much of our resources and mental strength is being exhausted. I get to the point where I say it is a worthless and failing endeavor, then a passage, such as this one makes me feel guilty for thinking of giving up on this person. I will continue to pray for direction.
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PO1 Kevin Dougherty
In my experience sometimes it can be a spiritual thing, they may simple need healing from some deep inner hurt, or deliverance. It could also be a chemical thing, or a hidden addiction, so many possibilities. All we can to is pray and ask the Holy Spirit to guide us. We may or may not like the answer we get, but our job is to obey. We had a gal we tried to help, after a lot of prayer and seeking we realized that what she really needed was tough love. It was not easy, but we laid it out with her, and then walked it out. She still needs a lot of healing, but she is better. Even though she still scowls when she sees us, we can look at her life and see improvements.
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PO1 H Gene Lawrence
PO1 Kevin Dougherty - that is basically what we have come to conclude and are doing.
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Good morning COL Mikel J. Burroughs and I wish you a safe and successful ride this morning. Come back and post some pictures for us.
Modesty is an underrated virtue until you've worked with someone who spends all their time bragging about themselves. The modest leader doesn't need to do so, his or her followers will spread the word for them.
"Have more than you show, and speak less than you know" ~Shakespeare (King Lear)
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Modesty is an underrated virtue until you've worked with someone who spends all their time bragging about themselves. The modest leader doesn't need to do so, his or her followers will spread the word for them.
"Have more than you show, and speak less than you know" ~Shakespeare (King Lear)
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LTC Stephen F.
I pray that you and I treat each person with honor and stand up for the modest and protect them as best we can from bullies large and small, my friend and brother-in-Christ Lt Col Charlie Brown.
Thank YOU, LORD for YOUR Word. Thank YOU for humility and compassion which YOU honor.
I pray for modesty to abound in families and among friends. I thank YOU LORD that YOU give grace to the humble and YOU are opposed to the proud.
Do what it takes to the producers of TV, cable, movies and shows to have them respect modesty for actors, actresses and viewers in daytime and evening shows. Shake up those advertisers who use sexual attraction of children to sell their products.
I lift each school districts in this nation and I pray that administrators, school boards, teachers and parents are working to honor the modesty of young children through middle school at least. I pray that school districts are supporting the rule that birth gender of students for restrooms and shower facilities and limiting students based on their actual gender.
I pray for humility, compassion and selfless love to blossom in families across the Body of Christ.
I pray that each one of YOUR adopted children and their loved ones sleep well tonight.
By the power and authority of the Name above all names, Jesus the Christ.
FYI SMSgt Lawrence McCarter SSG William Jones PO1 Robert George SP5 Jeannie Carle SGT Steve McFarland COL Mikel J. Burroughs SGT Wanda Shepherd SPC Michael Oles SR (Join to see)
Thank YOU, LORD for YOUR Word. Thank YOU for humility and compassion which YOU honor.
I pray for modesty to abound in families and among friends. I thank YOU LORD that YOU give grace to the humble and YOU are opposed to the proud.
Do what it takes to the producers of TV, cable, movies and shows to have them respect modesty for actors, actresses and viewers in daytime and evening shows. Shake up those advertisers who use sexual attraction of children to sell their products.
I lift each school districts in this nation and I pray that administrators, school boards, teachers and parents are working to honor the modesty of young children through middle school at least. I pray that school districts are supporting the rule that birth gender of students for restrooms and shower facilities and limiting students based on their actual gender.
I pray for humility, compassion and selfless love to blossom in families across the Body of Christ.
I pray that each one of YOUR adopted children and their loved ones sleep well tonight.
By the power and authority of the Name above all names, Jesus the Christ.
FYI SMSgt Lawrence McCarter SSG William Jones PO1 Robert George SP5 Jeannie Carle SGT Steve McFarland COL Mikel J. Burroughs SGT Wanda Shepherd SPC Michael Oles SR (Join to see)
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