Grooming Standards
Grooming Standards
Posted on Jul 16, 2016
How would you accommodate a transgender subordinate in your unit?
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Following RAND's study and the one by the Palm Center previous to that, it's clear that there are thousands of transgender people serving right now.
How should the military accommodate these individuals? Should they be allowed to follow the regs of the gender they identify with? Should facilities be assigned by gender, or the physical sex of the service member?
Constructive responses please.
How should the military accommodate these individuals? Should they be allowed to follow the regs of the gender they identify with? Should facilities be assigned by gender, or the physical sex of the service member?
Constructive responses please.
LGBTQ+
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Grooming Standards
Transgender
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It is not the role of the military to accommodate persons who choose to join our institution, it is the role of the individual Soldiers (Sailors, etc.) to conform to the customs and regulations that come with military service. When individuals want to be treated "special" is when they start to lose my support and sympathy.
Ruck up and do your duty, and we will get along smashingly.
Ruck up and do your duty, and we will get along smashingly.
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Cpl Kathleen Phippard
1SG (Join to see) tattoos? I see them everywhere now. Even women in the service
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1SG (Join to see)
Cpl Kathleen Phippard - Well to be more specific, rules on tattoos have evolved significantly over the many years I've been in, but all services have rules against extremist symbology. I believe they vary over areas of the body that are prohibited at entry to service, and sometimes it is different after you're in. The point of such rules is uniformity and professional appearance. Reasonable people can disagree on this, which is why there are provisions in the wear and appearance regulation, and steps to take for exceptions to policy.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SSG Bill McCoy - When the realization that if you are a homely man you will not be a beautiful woman hits home and the invitations to the tea parties don't come.
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MSgt Karl Hawes
If you start with a bat and two balls and decide to trade them in for a catcher's mitt, you are still a male, no matter what position you want to play.
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THIS IS AN ODD QUESTION... "ACCOMMODATIONS"? I would say ABSOLUTELY NO SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS should be made at all. IF Trans-genders are capable of serving... And the Army is Hell Bent to have them... Then they put up with, do the job and live in the conditions that their normal comrades do. Born a MALE, wear all the women's clothes you want to but you fall under height/weight, BMI and Physical training standards of a MALE not a FEMALE. It is unfair to have a TG max a PT test because the female test is easier than the male test, when He was a he before he was a she. You want to be treated with the same respect as everyone, then EARN that respect by doing the job WITHOUT any Accommodations... OH, and By the way, get used to BORN FEMALE Soldiers not being comfortable with your penis in the female showers and latrines, NOT wanting to share a room with you and the Male Soldiers feeling the same way, BUT since the rights and wishes of the normal Soldiers does not matter...who gives a shit.
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PO3 Ronald Davis
SSG Jacey R.
There are TWO SEXES PERIOD,, XX & XY ,, You can't change that,, it is a constant,, until you can change the genetic chromosomes that IS THE REALITY,, Sorry to burst you all's bubble but that's the facts,, so you'll always be a he if you were born that way n you'll always be a she,,
There are TWO SEXES PERIOD,, XX & XY ,, You can't change that,, it is a constant,, until you can change the genetic chromosomes that IS THE REALITY,, Sorry to burst you all's bubble but that's the facts,, so you'll always be a he if you were born that way n you'll always be a she,,
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PO2 Robert Carrillo
I agree the military (as per Rush Limbaugh) said the military is not the place for social programs, as previously stated 2 sexes only where in the hell did gender come from, next we'll have to accommodate someone who thinks he's a dog, gender identity
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SFC Lyle Green
Personally/logically, I am confused!? What is the purpose of these shem, memn, u/k or whatever their self-designated title is, being here to be questioned in the first place? As it appears to any opinion of logic, if the physic, attitude, opinion, self-thought of such a strong - conviction that make one choose to deny their original status of gender. More critical is the basic mental mindset of these to totally deny and furiously defend their “flip-flop” impossible to comprehend distortions of reality? I.e., in a combat confrontation ( after all, that’s what the primary reason the military exists to perform) facing a real live situation of life or death and the situation appears to the individual to be dire or hopeless to survive. If they previously made the drastic decision/choice to flip-flop deny their borne undeniable gender that they are, with that phycological, disorder of reasoning, what’s to keep them from suddenly betraying their loyalty to their perceived duty of a U. S. military unit and suddenly become one of the enemy?
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In my opinion, I think the best way to handle the situation is to implement one standard for everyone regardless of age or gender. That would include both PT and wear and appearance.
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SGT John Schmelzkopf
The DemaKommies had better win in 2024, or many will see the GreyBar Hotel, we are living in some crazy, interesting times. Law Enforcement and Military have been hit hard with Klown Leadership, Milli Vanilli is a Joke that cost many lives! ObamaDen Admin is Keystone Cops without the Comedy. We have allowed these Klowns to destroy at least 2 Generations with the crazy Masks in Schools, Criminal Activity with no Consequences for the Dirt Bag but Termination, even Prison for our LE's. Self Defence is a Crime, Theft and Mugging is a Right! Child Sexual Mutilation and Indoctrination is the Norm and most people are too cowardly to Protest or openly call it what it is. I have no Problem with a person being Gay in Military as long as they wear Uniform Properly and Show Military Decorum. This Transgender Clownery is ridicules and will destroy our Military, due to present leadership (I say that Jokingly), we are on a very close edge for WWIII. God help us if it happens, many will die as we reshape the Forces to a Fighting Force it once was!
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SFC Daniel Stewart
That’s what there was in 1996 when I retired, Mr. Stevenson. Did it change on the books?
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