Posted on Feb 1, 2021
China is getting ready to field its 3rd aircraft carrier — here's why it's no match for US...
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Thank you my friend LTC (Join to see) for posting the background on why the communist China's newest aircraft will not be in the league of the US Aircraft carriers
1. Using old Soviet hulls,
2. ski-jump ramps, [ski jump is part of the Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery system, which launches an aircraft by forcing it upward as it speeds down the deck}
3. single launching of combat aircraft
4. Chinese combat aircraft are markedly inferior to US Carrier aircraft. the J15 is reverse engineered from Ukrainian design [ nearly 6,000 pounds heavier than the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and 4,000 pounds heavier than the F-35C.]
Images:
1. China's Shandong aircraft carrier
2. China's Shandong aircraft carrier at its commissioning ceremony at a port in Sanya in Hainan Province in 2019
3. A J-15 fighter taking off of the Liaoning in the South China Sea
4. A J-15 fighter jet landing on the Liaoning during a drill in the East China Sea in 2018
"Both the Liaoning and the Shandong are based on the Soviet-designed Kuznetsov-class carrier of the 1980s.
The ship that became the Liaoning, in fact, was being built as a Kuznetsov-class carrier for the Soviet navy until its construction was halted by the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991.
China purchased the incomplete hull from Ukraine in 1998 and then did a nearly decade-long refit in an attempt to turn the ship into a true aircraft carrier, removing some older Soviet-designed systems like its missile arsenal. The Shandong was given upgrades as well.
But one relic of their Soviet origin still hampers their effectiveness: ski-jump ramps.
The ski jump is part of the Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery system, which launches an aircraft by forcing it upward as it speeds down the deck, allowing it to take off with less speed than normally required.
STOBAR carriers come with a significant trade-off in that the aircraft have to be light to take off. This means Chinese jets can carry only a handful of missiles and have a limited fuel capacity.
In contrast, US carriers use steam-powered (and, eventually, electromagnetically powered) catapults to launch aircraft, allowing them to take off with heavier payloads. US carriers can launch fighters, fighter-bombers, surveillance and airborne-control aircraft, and even small transports, while Chinese carriers can launch only fighter jets with limited strike capability.
Chinese carriers must also launch their jets one at a time, while US carriers can launch two jets within seconds.
Added to this is the fact that China's current naval fighter, the J-15 Flying Shark, is believed to be largely inferior to its American counterparts.
Like China's carriers, the J-15 is based on a Soviet design. Unable to buy the Su-33 carrier-based fighter from Russia, the Chinese instead bought an unfinished Su-33 prototype from Ukraine and reverse-engineered it. The result is a carrier fighter plagued with problems.
While the prototype provided a good frame, it did not include the Su-33's engines. China, known for having difficulty producing efficient jet engines, had to settle for underpowered domestic versions.
The underpowered engines and other mechanical issues resulted in numerous crashes, some fatal, that were such a problem that at one point the entire J-15 fleet was grounded for three months.
The J-15 is also the heaviest carrier-based fighter in service — an unwelcome distinction given the limits of the STOBAR system. The J-15's empty weight, or without any fuel or weapons, of 38,000 pounds is nearly 6,000 pounds heavier than the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and 4,000 pounds heavier than the F-35C."
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. 'Bill' Price LTC (Join to see) PO1 William "Chip" Nagel PO2 (Join to see) SFC William Farrell TSgt David L. SFC Chuck Martinez SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi SSG Stephen Rogerson SSG Samuel Kermon SSG Michael Noll SGT Mark Anderson SGT Jim Arnold SMSgt Lawrence McCarter SMSgt David A Asbury
1. Using old Soviet hulls,
2. ski-jump ramps, [ski jump is part of the Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery system, which launches an aircraft by forcing it upward as it speeds down the deck}
3. single launching of combat aircraft
4. Chinese combat aircraft are markedly inferior to US Carrier aircraft. the J15 is reverse engineered from Ukrainian design [ nearly 6,000 pounds heavier than the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and 4,000 pounds heavier than the F-35C.]
Images:
1. China's Shandong aircraft carrier
2. China's Shandong aircraft carrier at its commissioning ceremony at a port in Sanya in Hainan Province in 2019
3. A J-15 fighter taking off of the Liaoning in the South China Sea
4. A J-15 fighter jet landing on the Liaoning during a drill in the East China Sea in 2018
"Both the Liaoning and the Shandong are based on the Soviet-designed Kuznetsov-class carrier of the 1980s.
The ship that became the Liaoning, in fact, was being built as a Kuznetsov-class carrier for the Soviet navy until its construction was halted by the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991.
China purchased the incomplete hull from Ukraine in 1998 and then did a nearly decade-long refit in an attempt to turn the ship into a true aircraft carrier, removing some older Soviet-designed systems like its missile arsenal. The Shandong was given upgrades as well.
But one relic of their Soviet origin still hampers their effectiveness: ski-jump ramps.
The ski jump is part of the Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery system, which launches an aircraft by forcing it upward as it speeds down the deck, allowing it to take off with less speed than normally required.
STOBAR carriers come with a significant trade-off in that the aircraft have to be light to take off. This means Chinese jets can carry only a handful of missiles and have a limited fuel capacity.
In contrast, US carriers use steam-powered (and, eventually, electromagnetically powered) catapults to launch aircraft, allowing them to take off with heavier payloads. US carriers can launch fighters, fighter-bombers, surveillance and airborne-control aircraft, and even small transports, while Chinese carriers can launch only fighter jets with limited strike capability.
Chinese carriers must also launch their jets one at a time, while US carriers can launch two jets within seconds.
Added to this is the fact that China's current naval fighter, the J-15 Flying Shark, is believed to be largely inferior to its American counterparts.
Like China's carriers, the J-15 is based on a Soviet design. Unable to buy the Su-33 carrier-based fighter from Russia, the Chinese instead bought an unfinished Su-33 prototype from Ukraine and reverse-engineered it. The result is a carrier fighter plagued with problems.
While the prototype provided a good frame, it did not include the Su-33's engines. China, known for having difficulty producing efficient jet engines, had to settle for underpowered domestic versions.
The underpowered engines and other mechanical issues resulted in numerous crashes, some fatal, that were such a problem that at one point the entire J-15 fleet was grounded for three months.
The J-15 is also the heaviest carrier-based fighter in service — an unwelcome distinction given the limits of the STOBAR system. The J-15's empty weight, or without any fuel or weapons, of 38,000 pounds is nearly 6,000 pounds heavier than the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and 4,000 pounds heavier than the F-35C."
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. 'Bill' Price LTC (Join to see) PO1 William "Chip" Nagel PO2 (Join to see) SFC William Farrell TSgt David L. SFC Chuck Martinez SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi SSG Stephen Rogerson SSG Samuel Kermon SSG Michael Noll SGT Mark Anderson SGT Jim Arnold SMSgt Lawrence McCarter SMSgt David A Asbury
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You do realize you have to direct this superior fire power . And I don't think sleepy Joe and the evil harpy are going to direct it at china...
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LTC (Join to see)
That is my fear that this administration and other democrats have been bought. I know about to publish this story on RP.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/terry-glavin-its-official-china-is-a-threat-to-canadas-national-security
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/terry-glavin-its-official-china-is-a-threat-to-canadas-national-security
Terry Glavin: It's official – China is a threat to Canada's national security
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