Posted on Oct 5, 2023
People working on climate solutions are facing a big obstacle: conspiracy theories
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Communities big and small are trying to rein in climate change. But many people working on these climate solutions are running into a big obstacle: falsehoods and conspiracy theories about their work. So what does this mean for fighting global warming?
To talk about the current state of climate disinformation, we checked in with three NPR reporters who have reported on climate, disinformation and the media — and they can answer our questions: Climate solutions reporter Julia Simon, media correspondent David Folkenflik, and reporter Huo Jingnan, who writes about conspiracy theories among other things.
Communities big and small are trying to rein in climate change. But many people working on these climate solutions are running into a big obstacle: falsehoods and conspiracy theories about their work. So what does this mean for fighting global warming?
To talk about the current state of climate disinformation, we checked in with three NPR reporters who have reported on climate, disinformation and the media — and they can answer our questions: Climate solutions reporter Julia Simon, media correspondent David Folkenflik, and reporter Huo Jingnan, who writes about conspiracy theories among other things.
People working on climate solutions are facing a big obstacle: conspiracy theories
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If conspiracy theories would stop coming true, there wouldn't be so many skeptics. But then again, if climate science was a real science they would look at all evidence and not cherry picking what they want to see.
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MSG Billy Brumfield
There are a multitude of problems with the "science," such as;
a. Hundreds of weather stations and buoys have been decommissioned/closed so they use estimated temps for those, 3 times a day for their "models." They are hypothesizing the evidence to support their hypothesis! What other "science" uses estimates?
b. Many weather stations have been moved from farmers fields to airfield tarmacs, asphalt tarmacs! Even the so called (by the left) dumb hick NASCAR fans know what that does!
c. Ice cores, the freaking ice cores show we have been in a cooling period for a few centuries, naturally we are due for a little bit of a warming period so the hucksters use it for their fear mongering like they did with the hole in the Ozone. The hole in the Ozone is cyclical, just like everything else and they figured it out. Blamed it on a product and then offered an alternative and got rich and oh look, because of this the hole shrunk, we saved the world! lmao
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a. Hundreds of weather stations and buoys have been decommissioned/closed so they use estimated temps for those, 3 times a day for their "models." They are hypothesizing the evidence to support their hypothesis! What other "science" uses estimates?
b. Many weather stations have been moved from farmers fields to airfield tarmacs, asphalt tarmacs! Even the so called (by the left) dumb hick NASCAR fans know what that does!
c. Ice cores, the freaking ice cores show we have been in a cooling period for a few centuries, naturally we are due for a little bit of a warming period so the hucksters use it for their fear mongering like they did with the hole in the Ozone. The hole in the Ozone is cyclical, just like everything else and they figured it out. Blamed it on a product and then offered an alternative and got rich and oh look, because of this the hole shrunk, we saved the world! lmao
SFC William Farrell CPT Scott Sharon SPC Douglas Bolton PVT William Murphy SSgt David M. SPC Woody Bullard SPC Tom Henry SFC John Davis Maj Kim Patterson SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth SFC (Join to see) CPT Richard Trione COL Mikel J. Burroughs SPC John Bryant A1C Riley Sanders SPC (Join to see) Lt Col Charlie Brown Maj Ronald (Ron) Scarpa
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Maj John Bell
SFC John Davis - My college senior project was on computer modeling of complex systems for predictive purposes. Computer modeling is extremely accurate between the end points of the data. It becomes more and more inaccurate (exponentially so) the farther you get away from the end points of data collected. It doesn't matter if your predicting ocean waves and hull form vibrations (as I was) or climate change.
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LTC Trent Klug
SFC John Davis In the 'you can trust scientists' department, they want you to believe that the CO2 and other gases released by a volcano during an eruption are only temporarily held in atmosphere and that man induced games stay around much, much longer.
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I just know when the Nord Stream pipe line blew up Germany tore down windmill power stations to mine coal. I like the suburban area I live in. I really don’t want to live in a 15 min city. Cookie cutter design. Who decides what grocery story you have? Trader Joe’s or Walmart? What hardware supply etc.
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CPT Jack Durish
Forgive me for depositing my comment here (PO1 Nagel is afraid of my words). The Climate Crisis IS a conspiracy theory (designed to incite panic among the populace and gain control over them). The fact that they do not permit disagreement (as evidenced by Nagel's canceling my ability to speak) is proof positive that there is no science behind the climate crisis.
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https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2948/milankovitch-orbital-cycles-and-their-role-in-earths-climate/#:~:text=A%20century%20ago%2C%20Serbian%20scientist,glaciation%20periods%20(Ice%20Ages).
I'm not disagreeing that Planet Earth is warming up but it has been for the last 10,000 years and eventually we will go into another ice age (Remember that in the 1980's when they said we were heading into another ice age) in 10,000 more years. Where were the cars and factories etc. back then causing the warm up? Answer: there wasn't. Read the article about Milankovitch cycles. Yes, these are theories but so far there has been truth to it.
I'm not disagreeing that Planet Earth is warming up but it has been for the last 10,000 years and eventually we will go into another ice age (Remember that in the 1980's when they said we were heading into another ice age) in 10,000 more years. Where were the cars and factories etc. back then causing the warm up? Answer: there wasn't. Read the article about Milankovitch cycles. Yes, these are theories but so far there has been truth to it.
Milankovitch (Orbital) Cycles and Their Role in Earth's Climate – Climate Change: Vital Signs of...
Small cyclical variations in the shape of Earth's orbit, its wobble and the angle its axis is tilted play key roles in influencing Earth's climate over timespans of tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years.
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LTC David Brown
I fnd t nteresting that global warming groups started measuring temperatures as we came out of a mini ice age.
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