Posted on May 18, 2018
Warthog replacement anyone? Former Air Force officers say to think beyond light attack aircraft
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The ‘Hawg ain’t sexy & the Air FARCE doesn’t give a fuck about CAS or grunts unless we’re coming to save their shot up asses.
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LTC (Join to see) - Sgt Wayne Wood - Maybe the Grunts should use 1st gear when called to rescue the next batch of Air Farce operators ?
I'm just saying that if the importance is low on the Air Farce to Grunt then maybe the Grunt to Air Farce should reciprocate the same compliment.
I'm just saying that if the importance is low on the Air Farce to Grunt then maybe the Grunt to Air Farce should reciprocate the same compliment.
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Yes, we will Gallup with coconuts at very slow speed to rescue them like King Arthur did in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. LOL
Yes, we will Gallup with coconuts at very slow speed to rescue them like King Arthur did in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. LOL
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This makes no sense. IMHO the problem is that the AF doesn't want the close air support mission BUT they don't want anyone else to take it on. Stupid. Put up or shut up.
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen GySgt John Olson Col Joseph Lenertz Lt Col Jim Coe SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL Maj William W. 'Bill' Price Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. TSgt David L. CPT Jack Durish Alan K. Cynthia Croft Capt Dwayne Conyers Maj Marty Hogan SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen GySgt John Olson Col Joseph Lenertz Lt Col Jim Coe SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL Maj William W. 'Bill' Price Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. TSgt David L. CPT Jack Durish Alan K. Cynthia Croft Capt Dwayne Conyers Maj Marty Hogan SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Fat fingering on a tablet struck. What I was trying to say is that if JCS declared CAS an Air Force responsibility a dedicated platform for this mission would make it's way into the AF budget IMO.
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TSgt David L.
Lt Col Charlie Brown As I said earlier, the AF has been trying to dump the Warthog since the end of the Cold War. The Hog drivers relish the job but the fast mover Fighter Jocks that rule the AF have always loathed the slow, ugly platform. I doubt that it could even be built with the Jet Jock mentality we have now. And NOTHING else in the sky can do what it does so well!
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TSgt David L.
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - I agree with you second statement. IF, and that is a BIG IF, the AF was formally tasked with the CAS mission we would have something besides the F-35. Just my 2 cents.
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The sad thing is that we have been trying to dump the Warthog since the end of the Cold War. I'm glad there is enough support to keep the A-10 flying for now. I hate to see it got to the Army but before we actually retire her the Army Aviation side needs to pick this bird up and keep her airborne.
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LTC (Join to see)
The Army will take it too if they changed the GD Key West agreement only allowing the Army to fly Helicopters and light planes signed on March 14, 1948.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_West_Agreement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_West_Agreement
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Key West Agreement - Wikipedia
The Key West Agreement is the colloquial name for the policy paper Function of the Armed Forces and the Joint Chiefs of Staff drafted by James V. Forrestal, the first United States Secretary of Defense. Its most prominent feature was an outline for the division of air assets between the Army, Navy, and the newly created Air Force which, with modifications, continues to provide the basis for the division of these assets in the U.S. military...
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TSgt David L.
Sgt Wayne Wood - And that would be perfect but would they take on another platform with the F-35B?
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TSgt David L.
LTC (Join to see) - I think that would work itself out pretty quickly if the A-10 went on the market!
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Sgt Wayne Wood
TSgt David L. yeah... i think the Marines would snatch up the Hawg & maybe speed up the transition to the F-35 by scaling back on AV-8B
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