Posted on May 13, 2018
More US Service Members Die Training Than At War. Can The Pentagon Change That?
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It's a dangerous business training for war.
COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen F. SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen MAJ James Woods SPC Woody Bullard Sgt Wayne Wood Lt Col Charlie Brown SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth SFC Shirley Whitfield CSM Charles Hayden SPC Margaret Higgins Maj Marty Hogan LTC Greg Henning Maj William W. 'Bill' Price SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT John " Mac " McConnell SSG Jon Hill SGT Jim Arnold CPL Dave Hoover
COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen F. SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen MAJ James Woods SPC Woody Bullard Sgt Wayne Wood Lt Col Charlie Brown SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth SFC Shirley Whitfield CSM Charles Hayden SPC Margaret Higgins Maj Marty Hogan LTC Greg Henning Maj William W. 'Bill' Price SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT John " Mac " McConnell SSG Jon Hill SGT Jim Arnold CPL Dave Hoover
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MAJ James Woods
Yes it is and it begins with leaders; guidance, preparations, rehearsals, discipline, no short cuts, and maintenance. Accidents happen but negligence is inexcusable.
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Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D.
Agree. A classmate and I were born on the same day & yr. I entered the Air Force before he did as I was not in college. He went on to graduate from college, was commissioned & went to flight school abd qualified for jets (not sure but may have been a F102). His plane malfunctioned & crashed on a cross country flight to his home area. He did not Eject, but opted opted to keep his plane from hitting a home or populated area. Heroism is not only displayed on the battlefield. As an aside, his parents were German & were allowed to immigrate right after WWII. He was their first born.
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We can make it really safe but then it isn't much use as realistic training and a lot more people would die in war.
COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen F. MSgt Don Dobbs SGT (Join to see) Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen CPT Jack Durish CW5 Jack Cardwell Maj William W. 'Bill' Price Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. LTC Jeff Shearer Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth Cpl Scott McCarroll SP5 Jeannie Carle Sgt John H. SPC Douglas Bolton SGT Mark Halmrast SP5 Mark Kuzinski
COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen F. MSgt Don Dobbs SGT (Join to see) Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen CPT Jack Durish CW5 Jack Cardwell Maj William W. 'Bill' Price Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. LTC Jeff Shearer Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth Cpl Scott McCarroll SP5 Jeannie Carle Sgt John H. SPC Douglas Bolton SGT Mark Halmrast SP5 Mark Kuzinski
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SP5 Jeannie Carle
Yes - the one who wasn't properly trained, and those around him/her depending on him/her.
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Well PO1 Tony Holland to be honest:
1. I think it is hopeful news that more service members die in training that in wartime.
a. That means the training and equipping of service members and weapons systems in combat is successful.
b. the medical triage system in combat theaters is top notch.
2. Training for combat needs to be realistic as possible. Simulations can assist; but, stressful and realistic training is critical to individual and squad level and higher organization training.
3. It is always better to fail in training than to fail in combat.
4. In WWII and the Korean war and in the Vietnam War more service members were killed in theater than in training in CONUS. I don't think anybody with a sane mind would want to go back to that time.
5. Compare how many people die on the roads on this nation to military service member deaths.
Thank you for mentioning me SGT (Join to see) and Lt Col Charlie Brown
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC (Join to see) Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. "Bill" Price Maj Marty Hogan SCPO Morris Ramsey SSG John Ross SGT Mark Halmrast Sgt Randy Wilber Sgt John H. SGT Gregory Lawritson CPL Dave Hoover SPC Margaret Higgins SrA Christopher Wright Cpl Gabriel F. Cpl Scott McCarroll
1. I think it is hopeful news that more service members die in training that in wartime.
a. That means the training and equipping of service members and weapons systems in combat is successful.
b. the medical triage system in combat theaters is top notch.
2. Training for combat needs to be realistic as possible. Simulations can assist; but, stressful and realistic training is critical to individual and squad level and higher organization training.
3. It is always better to fail in training than to fail in combat.
4. In WWII and the Korean war and in the Vietnam War more service members were killed in theater than in training in CONUS. I don't think anybody with a sane mind would want to go back to that time.
5. Compare how many people die on the roads on this nation to military service member deaths.
Thank you for mentioning me SGT (Join to see) and Lt Col Charlie Brown
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC (Join to see) Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. "Bill" Price Maj Marty Hogan SCPO Morris Ramsey SSG John Ross SGT Mark Halmrast Sgt Randy Wilber Sgt John H. SGT Gregory Lawritson CPL Dave Hoover SPC Margaret Higgins SrA Christopher Wright Cpl Gabriel F. Cpl Scott McCarroll
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