Posted on May 8, 2014
What is the most useless piece of military equipment you have ever seen or used?
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For me it would have to be the old M163 SP Vulcan Air Defense Artillery Gatling gun. It was supposed to be used to shoot down aircraft (jets), however after three long years of manning this piece of equipment I came to believe that the only way you could actually bring down an enemy fighter jet was if the pilot saw you firing at him and he crashed while laughing his ass off at you. Please, lets not have any comments about 2nd Lieutenants, that one is just a given. Just kidding, you butter bars know I love ya.
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SGT Tim Fridley
2 Actually the old banana suit PT uniforms and the Goer how many remember these God awful things? Gamagoat was a close second.
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SGT David Baker
SGT Tim Fridley - I do remember those...they were de rigeur at my very first duty station (Camp Red Cloud, ROK), and the young SGT who arrived about 4 months into my year and showed up in the new grays got sharply spoken to by the 1SG. Uniformity!
Got to my next place, and sent to UCS to buy grays, and also unit-wide T-shirts. Unit T's M-W-F, gray T's T-Th. Between not wanting to do laundry daily or reek every morning after Tuesday, I bought 3 unit and 2 gray T's. Fresh PT T-shirt every day FTW...
Got to my next place, and sent to UCS to buy grays, and also unit-wide T-shirts. Unit T's M-W-F, gray T's T-Th. Between not wanting to do laundry daily or reek every morning after Tuesday, I bought 3 unit and 2 gray T's. Fresh PT T-shirt every day FTW...
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SFC Shane Funkhouser
What are you talking about? Every officer I ever had loved those things especially on range day. It was an amazing place to stash their candy and phone and everything else they need except of course their magazines.
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The M-28 or M-29 Davy Crockett Weapon System(s) was a tactical nuclear recoilless gun (smoothbore) for firing the M-388 nuclear projectile that was deployed by the United States during the Cold War. Named after American soldier, congressman, and folk hero Davy Crockett, it was one of the smallest nuclear weapon systems ever built.
The crew was often well within the blast radius if the weapon were to be fired.
The Davy Crockett recoilless spigot gun was developed in the late 1950s for use against Soviet armor and troops if war broke out in Europe. Davy Crockett Sections were assigned to USAREUR (United States Army Europe) armor and mechanized and non-mechanized infantry battalions. During alerts to the Inner German border in the Fulda Gap the Davy Crocketts accompanied their battalions. All V Corps (including 3rd Armored Division) combat maneuver battalions had preassigned positions in the Fulda Gap. These were known as GDP (General Defense Plan) positions. The Davy Crockett sections were included in these defensive deployment plans. In addition to the Davy Crocketts (e.g., assigned to the 3rd Armored Division), V Corps had nuclear artillery rounds and Atomic Demolition Mines, and these were also targeted on the Fulda Gap.
The M-388 round used a version of the W54 warhead, a very small sub-kiloton fission device. The Mk-54 weighed about 51 lb (23 kg), with a yield equivalent to somewhere between 10 or 20 tons of TNT— very close to the minimum practical size and yield for a fission warhead. The only selectable feature with either versions of the Davy Crockett (M28 & M29) was the height-of-burst dial on the warhead. Post-Davy Crockett versions of the W54 nuclear device apparently had a selectable yield feature (see below for Hi/Lo Switch and Launching Piston references.) The complete round weighed 76 lb (34.5 kg). It was 31 in. (78.7 cm) long with a diameter of 11 in. (28 cm) at its widest point; a subcaliber piston at the back of the shell was inserted into the launcher's barrel for firing.[1] The "piston" was considered a spigot prior to the discharge of the propellant cartridge in the recoilless gun chamber of the Davy Crockett. The M-388 atomic projectile was mounted on the barrel-inserted spigot via bayonet slots. Once the propellant was discharged the spigot became the launching piston for the M-388 atomic projectile. The nuclear yield is hinted at in FM 9-11: Operation and Employment of the Davy Crockett Battlefield Missile, XM-28/29 (June 1963).
The M-388 could be launched from either of two launchers known as the Davy Crockett Weapon System(s): the 4-inch (120 mm) M28, with a range of about 1.25 mi (2 km), or the 6.1-in (155 mm) M29, with a range of 2.5 mi (4 km). Both weapons used the same projectile, and were either mounted on a tripod launcher transported by an armored personnel carrier, or they were carried by a Jeep (M-38 & later M-151). The Jeep was equipped with an attached launcher for the M28 or the M29, as required, whereas the Davy Crockett carried by an armored personnel carrier was set up in the field on a tripod away from the carrier. The Davy Crocketts were operated by a three-man crew.[2] In the 3rd Armored Division in Germany in the 1960s many Davy Crockett Sections (all of which were in the Heavy Mortar Platoons, in Headquarters Companies of Infantry or Armor Maneuver Battalions) received what became a mix of M28 & M29 launchers [e.g., one of each per D/C section]. Eventually, the M28s were replaced by M29s, so that both the armored personnel carriers and the Jeeps carried the M29.
A Davy Crockett casing preserved in the United States Army Ordnance Museum
Both recoilless guns proved to have poor accuracy in testing, so the shell's greatest effect would have been its extreme radiation hazard. The M-388 would produce an almost instantly lethal radiation dosage (in excess of 10,000 rem) within 500 feet (150 m), and a probably fatal dose (around 600 rem) within a quarter mile (400 m).[3]
The warhead was tested on July 7, 1962 in the Little Feller II weapons effects test shot, and again in an actual firing of the Davy Crockett from a distance of 1.7 miles (2.72 km) in the Little Feller I test shot on July 17. This was the last atmospheric test detonation at the Nevada Test Site.
Production of the Davy Crockett began in 1956, with a total of 2,100 being made. The weapon was tested between 1962 and 1968 at the Pohakuloa Training Area on Hawaiʻi island, with 714 M101 spotter rounds (not live warheads) that contained depleted uranium.[4][5] The weapon was deployed with US Army forces from 1961 to 1971. It was deactivated from US Army Europe (in West Germany) in August, 1967.[6]
Versions of the W54 warhead were also used in the Special Atomic Demolition Munition project and the AIM-26A Falcon.
Mk-54 (Davy Crockett) — 10 or 20 ton yield, Davy Crockett Gun warheadMk-54 (SADM) — variable yield 10 ton to 1 kiloton, Special Atomic Demolition Munition deviceW-54 — 250 ton yield, warhead for AIM-26 Falcon air-to-air missile
The 55th and 56th Infantry Platoons, attached to the Division Artillery of the US 82nd Airborne Division, were the last units equipped with the M-29 Davy Crockett weapons system. These two units were parachute deployed and, with a 1/2 ton truck per section, (3 per platoon) were fully air droppable. The units were deactivated in mid-1968.
The crew was often well within the blast radius if the weapon were to be fired.
The Davy Crockett recoilless spigot gun was developed in the late 1950s for use against Soviet armor and troops if war broke out in Europe. Davy Crockett Sections were assigned to USAREUR (United States Army Europe) armor and mechanized and non-mechanized infantry battalions. During alerts to the Inner German border in the Fulda Gap the Davy Crocketts accompanied their battalions. All V Corps (including 3rd Armored Division) combat maneuver battalions had preassigned positions in the Fulda Gap. These were known as GDP (General Defense Plan) positions. The Davy Crockett sections were included in these defensive deployment plans. In addition to the Davy Crocketts (e.g., assigned to the 3rd Armored Division), V Corps had nuclear artillery rounds and Atomic Demolition Mines, and these were also targeted on the Fulda Gap.
The M-388 round used a version of the W54 warhead, a very small sub-kiloton fission device. The Mk-54 weighed about 51 lb (23 kg), with a yield equivalent to somewhere between 10 or 20 tons of TNT— very close to the minimum practical size and yield for a fission warhead. The only selectable feature with either versions of the Davy Crockett (M28 & M29) was the height-of-burst dial on the warhead. Post-Davy Crockett versions of the W54 nuclear device apparently had a selectable yield feature (see below for Hi/Lo Switch and Launching Piston references.) The complete round weighed 76 lb (34.5 kg). It was 31 in. (78.7 cm) long with a diameter of 11 in. (28 cm) at its widest point; a subcaliber piston at the back of the shell was inserted into the launcher's barrel for firing.[1] The "piston" was considered a spigot prior to the discharge of the propellant cartridge in the recoilless gun chamber of the Davy Crockett. The M-388 atomic projectile was mounted on the barrel-inserted spigot via bayonet slots. Once the propellant was discharged the spigot became the launching piston for the M-388 atomic projectile. The nuclear yield is hinted at in FM 9-11: Operation and Employment of the Davy Crockett Battlefield Missile, XM-28/29 (June 1963).
The M-388 could be launched from either of two launchers known as the Davy Crockett Weapon System(s): the 4-inch (120 mm) M28, with a range of about 1.25 mi (2 km), or the 6.1-in (155 mm) M29, with a range of 2.5 mi (4 km). Both weapons used the same projectile, and were either mounted on a tripod launcher transported by an armored personnel carrier, or they were carried by a Jeep (M-38 & later M-151). The Jeep was equipped with an attached launcher for the M28 or the M29, as required, whereas the Davy Crockett carried by an armored personnel carrier was set up in the field on a tripod away from the carrier. The Davy Crocketts were operated by a three-man crew.[2] In the 3rd Armored Division in Germany in the 1960s many Davy Crockett Sections (all of which were in the Heavy Mortar Platoons, in Headquarters Companies of Infantry or Armor Maneuver Battalions) received what became a mix of M28 & M29 launchers [e.g., one of each per D/C section]. Eventually, the M28s were replaced by M29s, so that both the armored personnel carriers and the Jeeps carried the M29.
A Davy Crockett casing preserved in the United States Army Ordnance Museum
Both recoilless guns proved to have poor accuracy in testing, so the shell's greatest effect would have been its extreme radiation hazard. The M-388 would produce an almost instantly lethal radiation dosage (in excess of 10,000 rem) within 500 feet (150 m), and a probably fatal dose (around 600 rem) within a quarter mile (400 m).[3]
The warhead was tested on July 7, 1962 in the Little Feller II weapons effects test shot, and again in an actual firing of the Davy Crockett from a distance of 1.7 miles (2.72 km) in the Little Feller I test shot on July 17. This was the last atmospheric test detonation at the Nevada Test Site.
Production of the Davy Crockett began in 1956, with a total of 2,100 being made. The weapon was tested between 1962 and 1968 at the Pohakuloa Training Area on Hawaiʻi island, with 714 M101 spotter rounds (not live warheads) that contained depleted uranium.[4][5] The weapon was deployed with US Army forces from 1961 to 1971. It was deactivated from US Army Europe (in West Germany) in August, 1967.[6]
Versions of the W54 warhead were also used in the Special Atomic Demolition Munition project and the AIM-26A Falcon.
Mk-54 (Davy Crockett) — 10 or 20 ton yield, Davy Crockett Gun warheadMk-54 (SADM) — variable yield 10 ton to 1 kiloton, Special Atomic Demolition Munition deviceW-54 — 250 ton yield, warhead for AIM-26 Falcon air-to-air missile
The 55th and 56th Infantry Platoons, attached to the Division Artillery of the US 82nd Airborne Division, were the last units equipped with the M-29 Davy Crockett weapons system. These two units were parachute deployed and, with a 1/2 ton truck per section, (3 per platoon) were fully air droppable. The units were deactivated in mid-1968.
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MSG Mitch Dowler
Same with our old nuclear capable M110 8" Howitzers we had in Germany. They supposedly could only fire one round at the pressure required to lob a nuke round far enough away to keep you out of the blast zone.
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1LT Rich Voss
LTC - that's a pretty extensive write-up on 'ol Davy. They were still in Germany when I got there in '67 as were the 8 inchers MSG Dowler mentioned. I'm no certified meteorologist, but this fact remains, the prevailing winds in Europe blow West to East. So, our hope during the Cold War was that it would be really windy at the Fulda Gap if things went sideways. I'd almost vote for the Red-Eye because the platoon assigned to us never got to use them when Russian jets "somewhat violated" West German airspace when we went down to the Czech border during the Eastern Bloc invasion. That could have gotten ugly. Lots of fleeing Czech families waving to us as we headed down the autobahn to the border. They would be surprised, and probably angry, when we didn't cross the border. Ok, got it. That stupid blank adapter for the M14. Single shot allowed. Maybe.
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CPT John Ferrie
This was mounted on a M-38A1D jeep, see details if you want on: http://www.vintagemilitaryvehicles.com The back corner of the jeep was reinforced.
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The original MOPP boots. Why dick around trying to lace these damned things onto your feet when your good old rubber wet-weather boots will do the same thing without the hassle?
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MSgt Daniel Attilio
These things were horrible. And you had your own self contained swamp around each foot after like five minutes of wearing them.
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MILES gear...glad it's pretty much gone now.
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Suspended Profile
The problem with simunitions as it is the same in other Airsoft and Paintball. Sometimes the dickwads just will not admit being shot.
SGT Victoria Belbusti
Still used at JRTC in Germany. They have a statue of a solider in Hoehenfels in miles gear.
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LTC Jason Mackay
Goofy giant box where your ruck goes...but a guy on the moon but couldn’t put that somewhere else and smaller
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As a long time user of "Acme" products, I find this product bashing morally reprehensible. The product warnings clearly say "not for use by coyotes." My rocket skates have come in handy on several occasions. I'd also like to add that my gynormous magnet looks awesome on top of my car.
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SPC Charles Brown
Wow, do you seriously expect me to believe that you have never once ran into the canyon walls while using your rocket powered skates. How do you do it, I cannot avoid those things even when there aren't any. I guess it is just my luck or maybe I have coyote in me. Come on SFC Mark Merino, hook an old vet up and tell me how you do this. Is it magic, or some other worldly power you possess? lol
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The New Navy Working Uniform. Why the hell do we need blue camouflage?! So if we are out to sea, we can go for a swim and not get spotted by enemies? Makes no sense to me.
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PO1 John Miller
Dungarees and utilities were blue yet no one ever said "Hey... if we fall overboard wearing this uniform I won't be seen!" Same goes for blue flight deck jerseys. Just food for thought from a retired guy who went through 3 working uniforms (dungarees, utilities, and NWU's).
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PO1 Seth Crotser
The utilities were very light in color though. Plus if you fell overboard wearing that prisoners uniform they might not stop to pick you up.
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TSgt Bret Whitmore
Yeah, I always wonder which idiot admiral came up with the Smurf-Puke idea myself.
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PO2 Weaver Brian
PO1 Seth Crotser - The dungarees were definitely a Navy uniform. Prisons began to mimic it after WW2, when surplus dungarees were plentiful.
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CPL Brown -
Fallopian Tubes the FNGs (mechanics, etc) are frequently assigned to find.
In my experience they cause nothing but trouble in field clinics/hospitals.
Warmest Regards, Sandy
Fallopian Tubes the FNGs (mechanics, etc) are frequently assigned to find.
In my experience they cause nothing but trouble in field clinics/hospitals.
Warmest Regards, Sandy
SSG Kenneth Lanning
ok; if there's a bunch of medics running around looking for fallopian tubes I REALLY don't want the military to be handling my 40 year physical...
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