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So I have seen various set ups of badges on uniforms. I knew a guy that would only wear his Halo wings. I guess he wanted to make sure everyone saw them. In some places I have also seen Air Assault above Airborne wings. I think that is a 101st thing. What do you do with yours or can you even fit all your badges?
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You gentlemen seem to have a good handle on the most recent AR 670-1, can you tell me if I can wear my CIB and CMB at the same time? S1 NCOIC and DA photo guy both say yes, two fellow SOF Medics say yes, 1SG and CSM both say they aren't sure but don't think so. Honestly I don't understand why they would bother to make them different groups if you can't but I really just want to find someone who can definitively say yes or no and here is why or why not. Thanks for any insight you can provide.
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PFC Misty Ramos
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There is a chapter in AR 670-1 that lays out the order and precedence and the Location for placing the qualification badges ... or at Least when I went thru PLDC / BNOC/ ANOC there was ... And according to The 1st Sgt. and SGM there was...
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LTC Jason Mackay
Yeah, 670-1 and PAM 670-1 ch 22 layout which group category goes over what, but the air assault badge and the parachutist badge are in the same category. Pg 259
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
Yes, there still is and AR 670-1 can be viewed online to check the information and can even be downloaded for printing. The same holds true for all branches of the service ie the Air Force under AFI 36-2903. The information is available and actually easy to find.
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SGT Eric Knutson
LTC Jason Mackay - Having been in the 101st back in the 90's (2/502 Cco) the question did come up a few times, and policy for us anyway was ABN over AASLT due to seniority the ABN has been in use since 1940 and the AASLT came in during the 60's sometime, Age over beauty.
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I always wore my CIB, Air Crew and Sapper Tab, duty or dress (with a CAB tie tac). When I was TDY to Bragg, I put on the Air Assault. When with the 101st - Airborne. On ACUs or Multicam I only wore three badges. Wearing four pushes the CIB under the collar and we can't have that! Much the same as a combat patch, most of us wear the ones we are most proud of and I'm glad DA Pam 670-1 allows it.
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I have all three class 1 badges (two not worn) and two driver badges I can't wear but this is my usual set up. Only time it differs is when i wear full size medals. Then I wear the CIB, senior wings, and pathfinder since you can only wear three with medals.
I see a lot of people wearing badges from class 1, 2, and 3 at the same time that don't know they changed that with the last AR 670-1 and DA Pam 670-1.
I see a lot of people wearing badges from class 1, 2, and 3 at the same time that don't know they changed that with the last AR 670-1 and DA Pam 670-1.
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I recently noticed the DA Pam was changed but to be honest I don't really understand the change. Do you know why they bothered to make the CIB/EIB and the CIB/CMB different groups if you can't wear them at the same time? Or am I correct in understanding what its saying is you cant wear two from one group one or two from group two but you could wear one from group one and one from group two? Thanks for any insight.
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COL Charles Williams
CPT (Join to see) - I like it in the position of honor, as it is the best... I have a few more, but don't wear them...
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Here's mine. I see some people with pathfinder over air assault as they say it was much harder to earn. I couldn't agree more with that statement
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Agreed sir. The most anxiety I had waiting for those test results, but glad I had a good study group.
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I'm National Guard, so this is how my uniform usually sits for Christmas parties, graduations, etc. For title 10 events or DA photo I swap the Ram's Head with the Distinguished Rifleman badge and remove the last 4 ribbons.
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This is how mine are arranged. I have the drivers badge too, but choose not to wear it because I don't like wearing anything but my CAB above my ribbons.
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Suspended Profile
I was recently awarded the driver badge (which I think its absolutely silly) Did you wear it for your MSG Board DA Photo? I don't think I am? Thoughts?
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SFC Josh Simpson
I did. I think it’s a silly award (along with a few other gimme ribbons), but everything in my SRB was worn in the DA photo that went before the board.
I did. I think it’s a silly award (along with a few other gimme ribbons), but everything in my SRB was worn in the DA photo that went before the board.
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CIB on top, then the tabs(SF and Ranger) side by side, then a sprinkling of ribbons all in rows, and below those come the jump wings and bullwinkle.
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I don't have any, but if I did... CAB, Airborne, Air Assault... If I had more than that then I don't know. Doesn't help my OCD that the Pathfinder badge isn't silver.
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Missing a few things but nothing special on my uniform. I only wore the ASU 2 or 3 times before I got out. Some units do have informal regulations outside AR 670-1 for awards or skill badges they deem more important such as Ranger school or MWS.
Anything else would be preference. For example if I had done Ranger school, Airborne, and Air Assault I would likely have put the Ranger tab in the middle, because that would look better to me.
Anything else would be preference. For example if I had done Ranger school, Airborne, and Air Assault I would likely have put the Ranger tab in the middle, because that would look better to me.
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Like to wear the 1st Marine Division badge for combat service to honor the Battle for Fallujah where I earned my CIB. Three sets of foreign jump winds but like the Honduran wings best. Not allowed to wear the German Marksmanship Badge (Schutzenschnur) anymore but it sure looked good next to blue cord.
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CSM Chuck Stafford
My eyes are old and the photo is blurry, but is your AFEM upside down??? Do push-ups!
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CPT Andrew Wright
You are absolutely correct. Looking at it the blue stripe should be to the left, not red, white, and blue. Thanks, I will fix it. I am getting old too!
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I ETS'd in 1977. I somehow lost my dress greens and am trying to rebuild the jacket for my grandson. Cant remember how things went. Really not sure of how jump rings and air assault wings went with an EIB. Any help from back then is appreciated
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Here's a link to the 1981 version of 670-1 so it will get you most the way there http://cgsc.cdmhost.com/cdm/ref/collection/p4013coll9/id/602
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I have what may seem like a stupid question... but it has been 12 years (circa) and despite AR 670-1 my memory fails me. I know CAB is placed above ribbons. So from left to right UNDER the ribbons should be Airborne, Air Assault, Pathfinder... Correct? I could care less about marksmanship badges. ( my last qualification was only sharpshooter anyhow.).
I am trying to build my shadow box and want it by regulations ( AR 670-1). Can anyone help? Thanks.
I am trying to build my shadow box and want it by regulations ( AR 670-1). Can anyone help? Thanks.
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Had some spare time, so I dug into the regs a little bit.
From DA PAM 670-1, "(5) The order of precedence for combat and special skill badges are established only by group. There is no
precedence for combat or special skill badges within the same group. For example, personnel who are authorized to
wear the Parachutist and Air Assault badges may determine the order of wear between those two badges." - Page 257
That particular paragraph is what allows local units to do what they want as far as creating an officially non-existent "order of precedence" within a group. (I.e., the Air Assault and Parachutist badges are within the same group). This leads me to believe that it's really done more as a point of pride and local unit SOP than anything.
But it doesn't end there. I kept reading on; the quest continued!
Table 8-1 in AR 600-8-22, page 120, specifically outlines an order of precedence for badges. Which is in total conflict with the previously mentioned provision in DA PAM 670-1. And in it does indeed show the Parachutist Badge to be of a higher precedence than the Air Assault Badge.
So with all the information on the table, I'll pose the question for anyone else who has more knowledge of the subject than I do: Which Army Regulation takes priority with conflicting information? DA PAM 670-1 is of a more recent date, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that it necessarily overrides a provision a different AR (600-8-22).
From DA PAM 670-1, "(5) The order of precedence for combat and special skill badges are established only by group. There is no
precedence for combat or special skill badges within the same group. For example, personnel who are authorized to
wear the Parachutist and Air Assault badges may determine the order of wear between those two badges." - Page 257
That particular paragraph is what allows local units to do what they want as far as creating an officially non-existent "order of precedence" within a group. (I.e., the Air Assault and Parachutist badges are within the same group). This leads me to believe that it's really done more as a point of pride and local unit SOP than anything.
But it doesn't end there. I kept reading on; the quest continued!
Table 8-1 in AR 600-8-22, page 120, specifically outlines an order of precedence for badges. Which is in total conflict with the previously mentioned provision in DA PAM 670-1. And in it does indeed show the Parachutist Badge to be of a higher precedence than the Air Assault Badge.
So with all the information on the table, I'll pose the question for anyone else who has more knowledge of the subject than I do: Which Army Regulation takes priority with conflicting information? DA PAM 670-1 is of a more recent date, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that it necessarily overrides a provision a different AR (600-8-22).
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