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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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Agreed Charlie...we both served in the recruiting world and saw its challenges. They were enough without these sort of nonsense types of things. When I was a CC I had a waiver approval rate of over 95%. Those on edge were required to come to the headquarters to see me unless I just happened to be in that AOR visiting my recruiter. They met with the First Sergeant first so I could use his Shirt experience as to good or bad tenedencies then they met with me for however long it took to convince me on the waiver. Some were blanket and I just signed them but most had to meet up. Worked out good for us as we provided the Air Force with almost 100% BMT 1st round pass rates. That is a number that wasn't official but I had my recruiters track their applicants through BMT from start to finish and they all made it through without washback other than a medical one or two. I used that stat to see how well my recruiters were prepping their applicants for success in the DEP. But the challenges that recruiters are facing now are insurmountable and crazy...tough world for them right now to even make goal.
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SPC Gary C.
SPC Gary C.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth Lt Col Charlie Brown now don't yell at me here. I'm just guessing ages here for you guys, but if we are close to the same could it be because back then there was more of us to choose from. Now I was never on recruiting duty, I was only a aide for a month after AIT, but I saw in 80 that they could almost pick and choose.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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Well parlty correct. I was a recruiting CC from 2007 -2009. I was in a tough market. PA/WV/MD/OH. People up there don't have the want to serve tendencies that folks inthe Southeast do. People inthe South and Southeast usually have what we used to call a walk in market. But now even they are struggling. But when we sold potential recruits on service they bought it and we have good airmen. We also were still riding on the coattails of 9-11, 6 years earlier so the propensity to serve was still relativley high. NOW what I am hearing from people I still know in the field is that the current generation has no propensity to want to serve for several factors. First, the military going woke is one of them. When you want to leave your current state youwant something better. When we don't seperate ourselves from thenations politics we might as well just hand them a uniform and say go to work. Military service is not a better option as it looks just like where they are now. Second, pay and benefits. A lot of these younger folks see their parents andgrandparents fighting with the VA to get care, they see the old pension as a security blanket that went away. Now it is incumbent on them to build theit own retirement. Third, lack of appeal for military service. Military service used to be honorable to those that haven't served. Now it is just viewed as a job for those outside and in the government it is seen as a burden on the taxpayers with no visible return on investment. Bottom line, if we don't change where our military has been headed from DoD all the way down to the rank and file and change our recruiting strategies like allowing medical waivers, tattoos, et al we will continue to hurt to fill our personnel ranks.
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COL John McClellan
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Amn Dale Preisach
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If they waive them for Narcotics, what is the difference between that and Ritalin ??
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
Lt Col Charlie Brown
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I think because ritalin has a diagnosis attached that is supposedly lifelong BUT, it is so often a wrong diagnosis that it is almost worthless...
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Amn Dale Preisach
Amn Dale Preisach
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Lt Col Charlie Brown Transgender persons take medication for life. Yet, they are allowed to serve wherever they're sent. If they don't get their scripts, their bodies go into turmoil. The Armed forces may even pay for transition surgery. And still their meds are taken even after that. Adhd is one thing that can be handled and dealt with easier by a mos that is safe for the person and mission objectives/ readiness.
They can be placed into almost any mos which most units are behind the lines/ Conus/ even overseas and that would free up soldiers to serve where needed and them having no problems that would interfere with unit effectiveness/ safety.
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