Posted on Sep 12, 2020
Unless Biden Wins Big, ‘Violence in Streets’ Possible, Says WaPo Op-Ed
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Lt Col Charlie Brown Shared a Cartoon earlier on this topic. when I saw it I had to tilt my head a little. Then I found this tidbit. So, apparently the left is trying to convince the masses that unless JB/KH win big the country will go up in flames. To, in fact, scare them Dem. Come on Ref throw the flag that's motion in the backfield.
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Unless Biden Wins Big, ‘Violence in Streets’ Possible, Says WaPo Op-Ed
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Talk about fascism. Vote Biden or else. Seriously, if violence is what they want, then why wait, lets just get it over with already. Our republic needs watering every few hundred years or so.
Seriously, Trump is going to win. and the idiots will burn their cities, and ruin their economic validity. We all know they have not the balls to leave their cities and go to the rural areas because Billy Bob, and Becky Lynn are armed to the fucking teeth, and have had their Mothers, Fathers, Grandparents teach them how to shoot, and use the land since they were 7 or 8, while many of these idiots cannot figure out what gender or bathroom to use, and are scared to death of fire arms.
Seriously, Trump is going to win. and the idiots will burn their cities, and ruin their economic validity. We all know they have not the balls to leave their cities and go to the rural areas because Billy Bob, and Becky Lynn are armed to the fucking teeth, and have had their Mothers, Fathers, Grandparents teach them how to shoot, and use the land since they were 7 or 8, while many of these idiots cannot figure out what gender or bathroom to use, and are scared to death of fire arms.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
MAJ Ken Landgren - You know - you have moved the goal post so many times, it is laughable. Every time you received an answer that countered your point, you changed the field. Seriously mate - this conversation started with why do I want Trump to win - it has nothing to do with what Trump has done or is doing, it's the fact that the Democrat Platform has nothing of real substance. It is based on "I am not Trump", and raising taxes to pay for more social programs (seriously, where else will they get the money to pay for the programs). I am still waiting for the House to launch an investigation into the Biden sexual assault allegations, I mean we had one for Kavanough with far less to go on. Riddle me this high speed, why is Biden different? If we are going to move goal posts and change subjects, perhaps you can answer these questions
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Maj John Bell
MAJ Ken Landgren - As I've stated before, DHS is not the lead agency for operations. They are the lead Agency for planning and coordination.
NIMS is to some degree a "black box" system. It does not matter what the asset is, cash, bulldozers, or PPE. The Federal government gets the assets to the edge of the black box (staging areas) and the Incident Commander pulls from the staging areas. There must be a balance between Incident Commander (State Governors) "pull" logistics and National Operation Center (NOC) "push" logistics. But the Federal Executive is not there to impose solutions on the States.
Hypothetical situation: If the Federal government says ARNorth can set up field expedient hospitals in NY state and Governor Cuomo says "We don't want them." The President CANNOT say "You're going to get them whether you want them or not."
For the most part the Federal governments actual police powers extend to federal property and international boundaries.
Recall during hurricane Katrina, President Bush took heat because Army assets were not deployed soon enough into the area to help with evacuation. They were in the staging areas but Mayor Ray Nagee told the Governor of Louisiana they weren't necessary. President Bush had no authority.
The coast guard rescues people because the states don't have jurisdiction beyond the high water mark. It is US territorial waters, not Louisiana territorial waters. The Federal government allows local law enforcement to operate on territorial waters under a long standing Memorandum of agreement. There was a recent uproar because Trump administration (imo) corrected an Obama Administration over reach on what inland water ways fell under US jurisdiction and what fell under state jurisdiction. Although in thar case it was about who had sat, the EPA or the State DEQ's.
NIMS is to some degree a "black box" system. It does not matter what the asset is, cash, bulldozers, or PPE. The Federal government gets the assets to the edge of the black box (staging areas) and the Incident Commander pulls from the staging areas. There must be a balance between Incident Commander (State Governors) "pull" logistics and National Operation Center (NOC) "push" logistics. But the Federal Executive is not there to impose solutions on the States.
Hypothetical situation: If the Federal government says ARNorth can set up field expedient hospitals in NY state and Governor Cuomo says "We don't want them." The President CANNOT say "You're going to get them whether you want them or not."
For the most part the Federal governments actual police powers extend to federal property and international boundaries.
Recall during hurricane Katrina, President Bush took heat because Army assets were not deployed soon enough into the area to help with evacuation. They were in the staging areas but Mayor Ray Nagee told the Governor of Louisiana they weren't necessary. President Bush had no authority.
The coast guard rescues people because the states don't have jurisdiction beyond the high water mark. It is US territorial waters, not Louisiana territorial waters. The Federal government allows local law enforcement to operate on territorial waters under a long standing Memorandum of agreement. There was a recent uproar because Trump administration (imo) corrected an Obama Administration over reach on what inland water ways fell under US jurisdiction and what fell under state jurisdiction. Although in thar case it was about who had sat, the EPA or the State DEQ's.
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Maj John Bell
MAJ Ken Landgren - The Federal government has the ability to assist. Ability does not equate to command authority. Let's put this on a smaller scale.
House on fire. The Fire Chief (Incident Commander) needs roads blocks so that his firefighters aren't hit by passing traffic and cars aren't running over his hose lines. The fire chief tells law enforcement, and if there is a county road commission barricade trailer, the county road commission where to close the roads, and where to close the roads.
The county road commission has a barricade trailer because the Emergency manager months ago said it was a good idea and the county Emergency Management authority made sur that there was one and that it was house with the road commission. The road commission agreed to maintain the trailer and to provide an on-call POC 24/7 if the trailer was needed. Just because the road commission has the trailer, they don't have the authority during this incident to decide if, when, and where barricade assets are deployed.
The Federal government has funds and assets to assist. That doesn't mean it gets to decide if, when, and where the funds and assets are deployed.
House on fire. The Fire Chief (Incident Commander) needs roads blocks so that his firefighters aren't hit by passing traffic and cars aren't running over his hose lines. The fire chief tells law enforcement, and if there is a county road commission barricade trailer, the county road commission where to close the roads, and where to close the roads.
The county road commission has a barricade trailer because the Emergency manager months ago said it was a good idea and the county Emergency Management authority made sur that there was one and that it was house with the road commission. The road commission agreed to maintain the trailer and to provide an on-call POC 24/7 if the trailer was needed. Just because the road commission has the trailer, they don't have the authority during this incident to decide if, when, and where barricade assets are deployed.
The Federal government has funds and assets to assist. That doesn't mean it gets to decide if, when, and where the funds and assets are deployed.
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Maj John Bell
MAJ Ken Landgren - Once again not a single citation to back your assertion. It's like you think you are Hammurabi and I'm supposed to accept your opinion because "YOU SAY SO."
A provision of emergency law was refined in May 1976. Legislation was enacted granting the President the authority to order certain selected members of an armed services reserve component to active duty without a declaration of war or national emergency. Previously, such an activation of military reserve personnel had been limited to a “time of national emergency declared by the President” or “when otherwise authorized by law
Source: 10 US Code Section 12304.
However, those deployments are not without restrictions and limitations.
Show me the Clause in the Constitution, The Federal Law, or the Supreme Court Decision that gives the President to exercise authority over the Governors of sovereign States. And they are IN FACT sovereign states in EVERY matter not enumerated in the Constitution. The President's authority is primarily limited to the border and federal properties in such cases.
I keep hearing the same shrill scream " The President bungled the pandemic response." When I ask what specific powers he should have exercised... DEAFENING SILENCE." From my point of view if you believe someone screwed something up you should have a pretty clear idea of how it should have been done. Enlighten me.
The World Health Organization's (WHO’s) International Health Emergency Committee met twice in January, first on January 22-23 and then again on January 30. In the first meeting, the committee felt it had INSUFFICIENT evidence to declare an emergency, but at the second meeting it took the decision to declare a public health emergency of international concern (PHEIC). The WHO did not declare a global pandemic until March 11, after it became clear that the virus was spreading across borders, but not before the WHO made many warnings to governments, the WHO declared a global pandemic.
I propose a starting date of 21 January 2020, when the first case of COVID-19 was identified in the US. What powers should the President have exercised and when should he have exercised? If you want to use another starting date tell me the date and explain why it it the more appropriate date.
A provision of emergency law was refined in May 1976. Legislation was enacted granting the President the authority to order certain selected members of an armed services reserve component to active duty without a declaration of war or national emergency. Previously, such an activation of military reserve personnel had been limited to a “time of national emergency declared by the President” or “when otherwise authorized by law
Source: 10 US Code Section 12304.
However, those deployments are not without restrictions and limitations.
Show me the Clause in the Constitution, The Federal Law, or the Supreme Court Decision that gives the President to exercise authority over the Governors of sovereign States. And they are IN FACT sovereign states in EVERY matter not enumerated in the Constitution. The President's authority is primarily limited to the border and federal properties in such cases.
I keep hearing the same shrill scream " The President bungled the pandemic response." When I ask what specific powers he should have exercised... DEAFENING SILENCE." From my point of view if you believe someone screwed something up you should have a pretty clear idea of how it should have been done. Enlighten me.
The World Health Organization's (WHO’s) International Health Emergency Committee met twice in January, first on January 22-23 and then again on January 30. In the first meeting, the committee felt it had INSUFFICIENT evidence to declare an emergency, but at the second meeting it took the decision to declare a public health emergency of international concern (PHEIC). The WHO did not declare a global pandemic until March 11, after it became clear that the virus was spreading across borders, but not before the WHO made many warnings to governments, the WHO declared a global pandemic.
I propose a starting date of 21 January 2020, when the first case of COVID-19 was identified in the US. What powers should the President have exercised and when should he have exercised? If you want to use another starting date tell me the date and explain why it it the more appropriate date.
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I mean they're already torching the west coast have you seen oregon an northern California?
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Cpl Benjamin Long
Why stop them from burning down their own bases... Sounds like they are helping their enemies... Let the reduce their capacity before invading them.. Less targets to engage in the invasion
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I just think for myself trump or biden matters not what matters is putting anarchists behind bars where they belong.
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