Posted on Apr 23, 2023
Letter to the editor: A new amendment can repeal the Second Amendment
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The author identifies the symptom, but misdiagnoses the disease.
Yes, America has a gun homicide problem (symptom). The disease, however, is not guns, it is morality. Guns are simply the tools. It is the amoral mind, which thinks homicide is acceptable - even laudable! - which is diseased and must be cured.
Of course that would mean the radical progressives would have to admit that things like the nuclear family are good and should be encouraged, not mocked. So good luck.
Yes, America has a gun homicide problem (symptom). The disease, however, is not guns, it is morality. Guns are simply the tools. It is the amoral mind, which thinks homicide is acceptable - even laudable! - which is diseased and must be cured.
Of course that would mean the radical progressives would have to admit that things like the nuclear family are good and should be encouraged, not mocked. So good luck.
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Overturning the original Articles of the Constitution would start a civil war. The other amendments - that might be problematic. Here are 2 examples, the 1st historic and the 2nd hypothetical.
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Example 1: The Eighteenth Amendment or Prohibition was supposedly 'widely supported' but a quick perusal of the numbers shows that less than 12% of the US population wanted it. What happened was the Temperance Movement, backed by high society women (and their money) paid for the passage of the bill. Then 13 years later, 32 different states succeeded (2/3rds of the 48 states in 1932) in passing bills supporting the Repeal of Prohibition. This was enough states to force the convening of a Constitution Convention in 1933 on the issue of Repeal. Before that could begin, the US Congress of the day decided (pretty much in mass) that to 'keep control' of the lawmaking in federal hands (they WERE afraid of a second civil war, if only as legal means by the state governors and state legislatures) that they should re-look Prohibition.
Of the vote on the 21st Amendment, 2 states (North and South Carolina) rejected the 21st Amendment. The states of Georgia, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, and South Dakota didn’t meet before December 5 and didn’t even act to vote one way or the other on the 21st Amendment since there was already approval of the 36 (3/4s) needed for the 21st Amendment. There were strong indications that 6 of those favored the 21st Amendment an 2 were undecided. There were 2 other states which declined to organize state conventions on the Repeal, which meant they effectively abstained.
Across the United States 75% to 78% of the voters wanted Repeal to pass. So much that they were replacing the 'Incumbent Politicians' in state election after state election with candidates that supported Prohibition Repeal.
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Example 2: What if there were organizations that gathered enough following to a start a 'Repeal' of the Reconstruction Amendments of the 13th, 14th, and 15th OR the 19th Amendment in an activist movement?
The 13th, 14th, and 15th are called the Reconstruction Amendments both because they were the first enacted right after the Civil War and because all addressed questions related to the legal and political status of the African Americans.
The 13th Amendment abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except for those duly convicted of a crime.
The 14th Amendment addresses citizenship rights and equal protection of the laws for all persons.
The 15th Amendment prohibits discrimination in voting rights of citizens on the basis of "race, color, or previous condition of servitude."
The 19th Amendment ratified in 1920, granted women the right to vote. The 19th amendment legally guarantees American women the right to vote.
In my opinion - I think everyone in the United States would expect a Civil War to start BEFORE Congress could finish their roll call to vote the issues.
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What is your opinion?.
PV2 Scott Mollette SFC Casey O'Mally Maj Robert Thornton SFC Rocky Gannon SPC Matthew Aamot CH (CPT) (Join to see) SSG (Join to see) MSG (Join to see) SGT (Join to see)
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Example 1: The Eighteenth Amendment or Prohibition was supposedly 'widely supported' but a quick perusal of the numbers shows that less than 12% of the US population wanted it. What happened was the Temperance Movement, backed by high society women (and their money) paid for the passage of the bill. Then 13 years later, 32 different states succeeded (2/3rds of the 48 states in 1932) in passing bills supporting the Repeal of Prohibition. This was enough states to force the convening of a Constitution Convention in 1933 on the issue of Repeal. Before that could begin, the US Congress of the day decided (pretty much in mass) that to 'keep control' of the lawmaking in federal hands (they WERE afraid of a second civil war, if only as legal means by the state governors and state legislatures) that they should re-look Prohibition.
Of the vote on the 21st Amendment, 2 states (North and South Carolina) rejected the 21st Amendment. The states of Georgia, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, and South Dakota didn’t meet before December 5 and didn’t even act to vote one way or the other on the 21st Amendment since there was already approval of the 36 (3/4s) needed for the 21st Amendment. There were strong indications that 6 of those favored the 21st Amendment an 2 were undecided. There were 2 other states which declined to organize state conventions on the Repeal, which meant they effectively abstained.
Across the United States 75% to 78% of the voters wanted Repeal to pass. So much that they were replacing the 'Incumbent Politicians' in state election after state election with candidates that supported Prohibition Repeal.
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Example 2: What if there were organizations that gathered enough following to a start a 'Repeal' of the Reconstruction Amendments of the 13th, 14th, and 15th OR the 19th Amendment in an activist movement?
The 13th, 14th, and 15th are called the Reconstruction Amendments both because they were the first enacted right after the Civil War and because all addressed questions related to the legal and political status of the African Americans.
The 13th Amendment abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except for those duly convicted of a crime.
The 14th Amendment addresses citizenship rights and equal protection of the laws for all persons.
The 15th Amendment prohibits discrimination in voting rights of citizens on the basis of "race, color, or previous condition of servitude."
The 19th Amendment ratified in 1920, granted women the right to vote. The 19th amendment legally guarantees American women the right to vote.
In my opinion - I think everyone in the United States would expect a Civil War to start BEFORE Congress could finish their roll call to vote the issues.
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What is your opinion?.
PV2 Scott Mollette SFC Casey O'Mally Maj Robert Thornton SFC Rocky Gannon SPC Matthew Aamot CH (CPT) (Join to see) SSG (Join to see) MSG (Join to see) SGT (Join to see)
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Why did the current administration stop enforcing the 14th and 15th Amendments? Today amendments don't require repeal, they only need to be ignored.
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SSG John Gillespie
CPT (Join to see) Fairly well observed and put. I would point out that the current administration is not the first to simply ignore the U.S Constitution as it sees fit , usually as regards the rights of U.S. Citizens but also more generally as relates to the limits of Federal authority.
It wasn't that long ago that another U.S. President signed off on an extrajudicial execution of a U.S. Citizen. Despite your opinion on that particularly egregious matter, the fact is that either all Citizens have rights, guaranteed by due process under law, or none of us do. It really is that simple.
It wasn't that long ago that another U.S. President signed off on an extrajudicial execution of a U.S. Citizen. Despite your opinion on that particularly egregious matter, the fact is that either all Citizens have rights, guaranteed by due process under law, or none of us do. It really is that simple.
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Yes, I was less than enthused when President Obama ordered the extra-judicial killing of Anwar al-Awalaki (an American Citizen by birth).
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Tagging on to Cpl Vic Burk’s earlier post regarding crap; what a crock of sh!t. The problem is mental health. Guns do not go out and shoot on their own.
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SSG John Gillespie
CPT (Join to see) Interesting perspective, and I would like to agree with it as somewhat sensible in some respects, but might you have some particularly compelling reason to think that may be the case?
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I provide healthcare at an institution with a large percentage of patients having what is generally described as developmentally delayed or suffering with mental health issues. Clinical Psychologists and Psychiatrists (MD) do not commonly agree on very much. However relating to the observation here, they are pretty much of one mind.
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SSG John Gillespie
Indeed. It's almost like "gun violence" is a term specifically crafted to advance a political agenda and has nothing to do with actual outcry against violent crime.
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