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Maj Robert Thornton
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“The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in 2015 that undocumented immigrants have an individual right to bear arms, while some other courts have ruled otherwise. The Supreme Court may eventually need to clarify that issue.”
I agree that this is an issue the Supremes need to clarify. Why would an undocumented/illegal alien have the right to bear arms, they are not here legally IMHO.
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MSG Thomas Currie
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That would depend on your view of "rights" -- are YOUR rights something that the government grants you (and therefore can take away at will) or are there some "inalienable" rights that are "endowed by their Creator"

Are perhaps some rights granted by the government and other rights endowed by the Creator. If so, where does the right to self-defense fit?

The founders certainly saw "life" as one of the inalienable rights endowed by their Creator (they said so clearly in the Declaration of Independence).

If "life" is an inalienable right, does that include the right to defend your life? Does the right to defend your life include a right to have the means to do so or is it just a hollow platitude?
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Maj Robert Thornton
Maj Robert Thornton
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MSG Thomas Currie a convicted felon is not allowed to have a firearm, why would someone who is in this country illegally be afforded more rights than a felon? In my opinion one who has illegally crossed the border is in effect a felon.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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The only thing in the Constitution that doesn't apply to non-citizens is the right to vote. Everything else applies especially when it doesn't say "citizen" in the amendment. Anyone on US soil is afforded protection of the Constitution - even enemy combatants at Guantanamo got protections.

Anyone on US soil - so within the borders of the US or any US territory for example - is protected by the Constitution. So that means the 2A applies to non-citizens if you truly want to argue it.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It says nothing about citizens. It says "right of the people..." as do many other amendments. Seems like someone may need to make an amendment if they want the Constitution to only apply to US citizens.
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OK, You want to make a case of symantics; "We the People **OF** the United States..." That's the 1st sentence of the Preamble.
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