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Disturbing study, on Prescription "Head" meds.
"According to one study,vii about 0.65% of people taking these psychotropic medications had “hostile” events. According to 2017 data, 19.1% of adults take antidepressants. That equates to over 49,000,000 adults. With a 0.65% rate of “hostile” side effects, we have almost 323,000 at-risk adults."
I think part of this is due to Insurance making it difficult to see a Psych professional.
SGT James Murphy, CPT Jack Durish,
SPC Gary Welch, SGT Mark Anderson,
CPL Douglas Chrysler, LTC Trent Klug,
CSM Charles Hayden, SMSgt David A Asbury,
SSG William Jones, MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi
SSG Michael Noll, MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
SGM Erik Marquez, CW3 Harvey K.
SFC William Farrell, CPL Ronald Keyes Jr
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"According to one study,vii about 0.65% of people taking these psychotropic medications had “hostile” events. According to 2017 data, 19.1% of adults take antidepressants. That equates to over 49,000,000 adults. With a 0.65% rate of “hostile” side effects, we have almost 323,000 at-risk adults."
I think part of this is due to Insurance making it difficult to see a Psych professional.
SGT James Murphy, CPT Jack Durish,
SPC Gary Welch, SGT Mark Anderson,
CPL Douglas Chrysler, LTC Trent Klug,
CSM Charles Hayden, SMSgt David A Asbury,
SSG William Jones, MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi
SSG Michael Noll, MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
SGM Erik Marquez, CW3 Harvey K.
SFC William Farrell, CPL Ronald Keyes Jr
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Medicated Murderers | Gun Facts
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IMHO the dataset used is unreliable and fails to control for a large quantity of factors. I will offer two examples of this:
1) I have been on a specific antidepressant for about a decade now. I am stable, and it is doing its job. This med is prescribed to me by my PCP.... NOW. But when I was first starting, I had a psychiatrist that I worked with to find the right medicine, dosage, and methodology (i.e. 1 extended release tab 2x daily). It took about a full year of tweaking and monitoring to get me stable. After that there were follow-ups every three months for an additional year. Only then did my prescription shift to my PCP.
I do not know how many of the people in their dataset fall into this category, but I know for a fact that this is not uncommon. I believe there is a high probability that their dataset fails to capture this process, and that the differential will be statistically significant.
2) They also fail to control for medicated vice unmedicated. The conclusion drawn is that us medicated folks aren't being monitored closely enough because we have a higher probability of committing violent crime. Yes, mentally unstable folks have a higher probability of crime and violence. Duh. But I would bet dollars to donuts when compared to unmedicated folks, us medicated ones are doing a hell of a lot better. The conclusion that the problem is medication without monitoring - or just plain medication in general - completely fails to control for the mental illness itself.
Ultimately, I think this study raises questions and concerns that need to be looked at and possibly researched. But the study itself should not be considered reliable for anything other than jumping off points for REAL, reliable, research.
1) I have been on a specific antidepressant for about a decade now. I am stable, and it is doing its job. This med is prescribed to me by my PCP.... NOW. But when I was first starting, I had a psychiatrist that I worked with to find the right medicine, dosage, and methodology (i.e. 1 extended release tab 2x daily). It took about a full year of tweaking and monitoring to get me stable. After that there were follow-ups every three months for an additional year. Only then did my prescription shift to my PCP.
I do not know how many of the people in their dataset fall into this category, but I know for a fact that this is not uncommon. I believe there is a high probability that their dataset fails to capture this process, and that the differential will be statistically significant.
2) They also fail to control for medicated vice unmedicated. The conclusion drawn is that us medicated folks aren't being monitored closely enough because we have a higher probability of committing violent crime. Yes, mentally unstable folks have a higher probability of crime and violence. Duh. But I would bet dollars to donuts when compared to unmedicated folks, us medicated ones are doing a hell of a lot better. The conclusion that the problem is medication without monitoring - or just plain medication in general - completely fails to control for the mental illness itself.
Ultimately, I think this study raises questions and concerns that need to be looked at and possibly researched. But the study itself should not be considered reliable for anything other than jumping off points for REAL, reliable, research.
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Those of us on VA provided meds are a whole 'nother animal where scrips are concerned as opposed to civilian health care. I also went through the process you describe as to what I take on a daily basis. My 1st scrip came from my PCP, but in conjunction She put in a psych consult. It took a couple of months to get an appt. Civilians on the other hand are waiting a year or more to see a Psych and the insurance co-pay charge can be outrageous(this is an anecdotal statement). As to your second point, the research was concerned with the medicated folks that have been involved in MPS, why would they bring up unmedicated. I consider it reliable, it's all these folks do and they do it very well.
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It just comes down to the laws of the jungle .. You can't use medications as an excuse to why the train you collided with sent you into the afterlife.
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