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Different chapters have different criteria about membership. These guys are thugs as much as Antifa. It reminds me of the Nazis and Communists fighting in the streets during the Weimar Republic in the 1920s. The video happens to be from the founder of both Vice and the Proud Boys, Gavin McInnes. He advocates violence against political opponents. Both groups are anti-American because they do not allow free speech or respect the Constitution or the rule of law. Remember the quote from Samuel Johnson- "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel", meaning that any crime or misbehaviour was ok as long as it was committed by one who kept shouting that he loved his country. It saddens mean that some veterans approve of both these groups.

https://www.businessinsider.com/proud-boys-antifa-fight-nyc-video-2018-10
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/nyregion/proud-boys-antifa-sentence.html

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They somewhat remind me of black lives matter because each chapter has their own agenda. Thank you for filling in the context.
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Thanks for sharing
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SSG Robert Ricci
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If one reads the Google description of The Proud Boys it gives you the impression that they are a extremely violent political group. Yet most of us have never heard of them including the president.

"The Proud Boys are a far-right, neo-fascist, and male-only organization affiliated with white supremacists that promotes and engages in political violence. It is based in the United States and also has a presence in Canada."

If in fact they are a white supremacy group they have no place in my America. Or your America. Our America. Unfortunately, they say that those that don't know history are destined to repeat it. I would hate to see the rise of 1933 all over again. Reportedly, when Patriot Prayer hits the streets, they're joined by the Proud Boys, a group that describes themselves as a fraternal organization. Others, including the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), call them a hate group.

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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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A white supremacist group led by a black Latino?
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SSG Robert Ricci
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Lt Col Charlie Brown go figure, ma'am. It seems that they are a conservative Hispanic group that is very much opposed to socialism and illegal immigration. I have not yet been able to tie physical assaults to the organization but I'm still investigating it.
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SSG Robert Ricci
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SSG Stephen Rogerson after watching the video I came away from it with a sense of Latino Pride that I was raised around in Southern California in the 1960s. I don't necessarily see their actions as being violent but then again I've never seen inside a rally where they've been present.

I read the speculation that they tend to fight antifa who is this fascist organization. Some people will have a problem with me calling them an organization but it's important I believe that although they are decentralized they are still an organization.

The Proud Boys just seem to be a group of men who have family that came here legally and feel very much as I do that it's inappropriate for illegal aliens to come across the border holding their hands out and the United States gives freely to them. I have a daughter with brain cancer and I can tell you that the government does not give freely to me. I have to beg for every dollar they give to us. There's some irony there.

I also see a group of men, the typical Latino man, who is the head of the household although does not make his wife subservient, that has very deep-seated values. Does values in some respects don't conflict with mine.

They bring awareness to Donald Trump at a time when the MSM attacked him relentlessly. Statistics show that 95% of all content related to Donald Trump is negative. The masses of course watch CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and MSNBC. Even Fox news is starting to lean to the left since Rodger Ailes died and his liberal children are now running the organization. They're going to do so to their peril in my opinion because when you're making as much money as they're making as a corporation even if you're liberal you shut up and take the money. But I don't see that happening.

So far what I see is a lot to do about nothing.
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