Police departments distance themselves from Trump's remarks

Sorry, "buddy," doesn't count when you suddenly start talking trash about me and my experience. I don't mind when people challenge my statements, in fact, I welcome it. But what I won't stand for is letting someone trash talk me or the police based on some false notion that they somehow know more about a topic.

As for you SIR: I would be happy to value your experience if you didn't completely step on my own, pretending like you know anything about me beyond what I already told you. You completely disregard the fact that I am *currently* in law enforcement (unlike you) and have direct experience with this group (unlike you--at least the MS-13 of today which is VERY different and far more dangerous), and yet despite all of that, you call me, "sonny" and make some inappropriate AND COMPLETELY FALSE comments about me not knowing what it is like to lose someone in the Line-of-Duty. Sorry, but that alone makes me want to punch right in the mouth, because all it does is remind me of the *many* funerals I have been to and the sacrifice that officers make every day which you CLEARY forgot (if your police experience is in fact, legitimate). So yeah, I am passionate about this topic.

You sir, are the hypocrite if you claim to give a damn about police today (or understand what they are going through) while making such remarks.

Wow, you calling me a snowflake after all your comments here and in other posts I have seen (and after following me here in this thread too). That's rich. You may claim to be a libertarian, but here and in other posts, you actually sound like far-left liberal cry baby. You know, I blocked you to avoid this nonsense, but sure I'll play a bit longer since you seem insistent on continuing this.

Yes I said you are no longer a cop. Is that not a true statement? I am pretty sure it is as you have already told me your background in other discussions (unless of course you are lying). So I am sorry that comment offended you enough to attack me, my opinion, and my background and to even follow me into this thread to keep egging me on. BTW: It doesn't remotely justify your ignorant comments.

Your response to me was basically telling me I didn't know what the hell I was talking about, and you bring up LOD deaths like a true asshole. Why would you even do that? What relevance does it have? The only reason I can fathom is that you have no argument. In any case, I blocked you in order to avoid talking to someone who thinks its appropriate to bring up such things (or to even suggest I don't know what its like to lose someone in the line of duty). Yet, even though blocked, you still follow and troll me. Nice.

And your comment on MS-13 just being like every gang? Yup, that right there proves you also have no clue what the hell you are talking about. But you still must be the expert and must be heard, despite you having no *current* experience with this criminal enterprise. You're a lawyer right? I bet in court judges have to tell you to shut up a lot. Is that why you feel it necessary to keep this arguing with me across multiple discussions?

Now, your comment stating that I am wrong about it not being the worst time to be a cop? Yeah, how would you know about that? Oh right, you quoted the crime rate like that is somehow related to this topic. And by the way, where did you get that information from? Because I can tell you that in many cities across the U.S. the crime rate (especially violent crime rate) is actually up, not down. You might want to check your sources. Again, you are not a current police officer and your comments demonstrate a clear disconnect with the current status of the law enforcement community. But why would you care about that? Your experience "in the past" is obviously more relevant then cops *currently* serving, even when talking about "current events." It doesn't matter that cops at my department and countless others are being shit on every day by a large portion of the public simply for doing their jobs. It doesn't matter that cops are being murdered while people continue to protest that cops are murderers. It takes a toll. And yes I have been to *too many* police funerals (thanks for reminding me).

I'll leave you with this. I don't care what your opinion is on the current status of law enforcement community, we obviously don't agree. The difference is, I am 100% confident that the *majority* of police officers today have the same opinions on the matter that I do. If you were truly honest with yourself, you would admit that most cops today would not agree with your comments and the only reason why you (and SFC Fuerhoff) even initially replied to me on this is because you dislike the POTUS. Sorry, but a large majority of cops are also supporters of the POTUS. I can say that with confidence because besides the many cops I work with, I also have friends in other departments across the U.S., and also most of my National Guard military unit is made of LEOs from countless local and federal LE agencies.

Now do us both a favor and find someone else to pester.

Yeah, not trying to get you to see my side anymore. That is clearly not possible with people who don't like facts, unless they agree with their viewpoints. Once you decided you were automatically the smartest person in the room, it was pretty easy to figure that out.

By the way, I am obviously passionate about such topics because I live this every day. You don't. And just so its clear SFC Fuerhoff, you actually did disrespect me, you might want to re-read your initial comments here and in other posts. And, I blocked you only after you decided to talk trash, and after you down-voted me for calling you out on something you said (expression or not).

That, and I also really don't care to read anymore of your leftist rants, here or in any other topics (obviously the block feature only prevents you from tagging me--too bad). Of course, apparently blocking you just to end this nonsense is also somehow offensive to you.

Oh well, I give you permission to go cry about it. With that, you have a lovely day as well! Hopefully I never have to meet you in person.

Wow. Trust me, you didn't hurt my feelings. And as the person that is clearly following me around in multiple posts after being blocked (you), clearly you are the one who is upset and/or had their feelings hurt.

Now I understand why you seem to have so many people that don't like you on RP. Can't let anything go can you? What's the point of even talking with you anyway? I have yet see you concede to anyone's viewpoints that don't agree with your own (and I am not speaking of just me). Whats worse, I have seen you talk trash about people's religions as well on several occasions, making comments insinuating that anyone who believes in God is an idiot. When I tried to politely tell you that was not appropriate, your response was basically to say "well I have been mistreated in the past for being an atheist, so I have the right to say this." So yeah, you just have a blank check to say whatever the hell you want. Makes sense. You've got some serious problems upstairs. Since you are a lawyer, maybe you can afford to hire a psychiatrist?

My guess is, you love to just find some politically charged topic on RP, pop in, and talk some trash. Never mind being civil. If anyone disagrees and/or blocks you, you follow them around and keep hassling them. And on the Internet no less... I was civil with you before, but after your comments here, I can see your true colors. I get it old man, you want to stay relevant. Sorry, you aren't.

And don't get it twisted, I am not denying your experience, nor am I saying I have more experience than you. I am saying your idiotic comments invalidates it and make you look like a joke. Here's the bottom line: I don't care if you were the goddamn Chief of Police of Tokyo. When you attack my experience, my character, and further make comments stating I don't know what its like to lose officers in the line-of-duty, you get NO RESPECT from me. The same goes for anyone making such asinine comments. As far as I am concerned, you are just another piece of trash liberal nutcase running around crying about the fact that Donald Trump is President. Boo hoo. Cry me a river.

Yup, they are coming out of the dark like roaches, spittle flying and He is not my President tantrums. I am sure it will eventually get old but for now I hope he keeps it up. We have had decades of business as usual with the people getting screwed at every turn by both parties. Some folks actual believe both parties actually give a shit about those who are their members.

CW3 (Join to see) Regardless of the threat, the POTUS encouraging law enforcement to become criminals themselves hardly seems like a great idea.

SPC Kevin Ford - I did not take it as that. I took it as the POTUS basically saying (in his own way) "Do what you gotta do to put these violent murderers away, I got your back."

As I can pretty much guarantee most (if not all) cops in attendance at that speech did. However if you are looking for ammo to attack the POTUS with, I am sure you will hear the worst wherever/whenever he speaks.

And I'm sorry, the level of the threat absolutely matters.

Capt Gregory Prickett - With all due respect sir, you are obviously not a cop anymore, but I am. So this is a topic I am very passionate about.

I have been in the law enforcement field for over 16 years working for multiple agencies (12 of those wearing a badge/sworn). I can say with absolute certainty that there has never been a worse time to be a cop. With fraudulent claims/lies being made by people about police every day (almost all of them proven false but never make it to the news), constant rhetoric (usually from the left side of the political aisle and groups aligned with them) insinuating all cops are racists and/or murders, and never-ending cries (also usually from the liberal-left) to victimize criminals (even extremely violent ones and repeat offenders). President Obama and his AGs did nothing to help police in this country. NOTHING. In fact, they even fanned the flames of hatred on multiple occasions in incidents involving police, even before an investigation had taken place. In Ferguson, MO, for instance, a false narrative was created by a lying witness, but it was proven that the officer involved was just doing his job. Before an investigation even began though, both Pres. Obama and AG Holder made insinuating comments, and Holder stood with race-baiters like Al Sharpton spreading lies and only giving fuel to the criminal rioters and looters. This lie of course led to the creation of Black Lives Matter, but that is a whole other issue.

Point is, there is finally a POTUS back in the White House that *openly* supports the police in this country. That is the kind of leadership that is needed for police. Rhetoric or not, it is positive, and IT DOES have an effect on police. You can call it "playing to the public" all you want, but his open-support for law enforcement is only thing that will stop that Ferguson effect from spreading in the minds of officers. Without that, it feels like we are fighting a losing battle against criminals because there is no outward support.

Further, no one said ANYTHING about abusing a suspect. You are echoing the biased news reports and completely ignoring the issue he was speaking about. He was giving a speech, and as we all know, the current POTUS is colorful in language using hyperbole QUITE OFTEN. You may have been a cop, but you are clearly on the liberal side of this issue if you are willing to say 2+2=5 just to put an argument together.

Despite your comment, this speech was about murderers and putting them away. It was about one of the most violent gangs in history. And it was about supporting the police so we can do our damn jobs. Nothing more, nothing less. You can continue to read into it if you want, but that speech was meant for me because I am cop, not for the liberal politicians/activists who find any reason right now to attack the POTUS.

And speaking for myself and every other cop I work with, we actually liked the speech, and didn't think he was giving us a blank check to "abuse suspects" as you put it.

Capt Gregory Prickett - Did you just call me "Sonny"? Really? I don't have a clue what losing officers is all about? So, you want make this about comparing LOD deaths or how many police officer funerals I have been to? Who in the hell do you think you are? YOU have NO IDEA who I am or how many friends I have lost in the line-of-duty *AND* in the military. Your comments are both IGNORANT, and STUPID. Based on those statements alone I would bet my pension that you do not have a damn clue on what the current status of the law enforcement community is.

FOR THE RECORD, I was talking about the INSANE rhetoric from the left and further pointing out that you (AND OTHERS) focusing on a single comment in the President's speech, missing the WHOLE point of the speech entirely, is exactly the problem with your viewpoint. Instead of addressing that, you'd rather sit there and snipe at someone who has dedicated his life to law enforcement (and yes, UNFORTUNATELY, LOST TOO MANY FRIENDS TO THIS JOB), pretending to somehow be better than me because "YOU THINK" you know more about what cops go through today than I do. How dare you. You think the police today are too militarized? That proves you have no idea what the hell is happening right now on the streets in countless cities! We are responding to a threat, criminals out to get us, many with high-powered weapons, and with ZERO support from a large part of the American public. Yet people like you would rather quote a couple limited studies (or try to compare your police experience from the 1980s) to try say you know what's best? Are you freegin kidding me? You are clearly delusional!

I'm done conversing with you. You are obviously another lost cause.