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LTC Russ Smith
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I think street is correct in the universal upgrades. But let's get real here. Generals suffer from Medal Envy and that's why the downgrade awards. I watched an Army Colonel write up his own Bronze Star for service, brag afoot doing it, as his two star gave it to him. It costs nothing to approve awards for meritorious performance in a combat zone. As for Valor, the Army seems to do better job of recognizing valor at the BSM/ARCOM level than the Marines. In the Army there is usually some staff officer, unlikely to get a Valor award due to his assignment, or some staff officer at the Pentagon somewhere, seconds guarding field commanders that downgrades or disapproves awards - think "Courtney Massengale" from "Once an Eagle." If today's generals and senior field grades had been I charge during WWII they would have slapped Audie Murphy on the back, said "Way to go, Audie," given his company commander a challenge coin, and given his battalion commander a Bronze Star with V. Murphy would be the subject of a 15-6 Investigation for being too aggressive and insensitive to the Nazis feelings.
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MSG Wade Huffman
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Edited >1 y ago
So...now for the big question, if you have one (or more) award without the device, and one (or more) with, do you wear two ribbons? (one with and one without the C, R and or V).
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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Excellent question!
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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MAJ Montgomery Granger - you potentially could be wearing a ribbon with VCR on it...there will have to be a review of the total number appurtances you can have on a decoration, especially for the Air Medal, Meritorious Service Medals, and Commendation Medals
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Lt Col Nurse Anesthetist
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No, you don’t need more than 1 ribbon. In 2017, new color versions of devices were issued to denote subsequent awards: bronze for first, silver for second, gold for third, bronze with wreath for 4th, silver with wreath for 5th, and gold with wreath for 6th or more. So, for example, if you have 6 Air Medals, 3 of them for valor and 1 for RPA (and 2 meeting no qualifications for a device), you would wear a gold “V,” a bronze “R,” and a number 6 (to denote your total number of awards) all on the same ribbon... it would be up to other people to do the math to figure it out. If you don’t have space (or: a ribbon that uses OLC or stars to denote subsequent awards), then you may have to use a separate ribbon.
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SPC Donald Moore
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I don't completely agree with the way the policy is written, but I think I see where they are going with it. The problem is really down to the commands that reduce a recommended award to some lesser award. If the commander on the ground recommends it, the higher headquarters should award it because the commander on the ground is the one that was there and knows what was done.
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