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If you look back, Israel and Palestine have an extremely turbulent history that has caused devastation on both sides. If you were to ask if they will ever be at peace, based on the past, the answer would be no. Time and time again Israel and Palestine have gone back and forth, leaving a path of destruction and asking for other countries to help pick up the pieces.
At the Gaza Reconstruction Conference in Cairo, $5.4 billion was raised to aid in rebuilding the Gaza strip…again. Interestingly enough, no one from Israel attended. According to the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, Egyptian officials feared many Arab states would have canceled if they knew an Israeli attended. Want to know how much the U.S. pledged? $400 million by the year’s end.
The U.S. has a long-standing history of giving money to Israel, since WWII more than $121 billion has been given. Since the mid 1990s, the U.S. has given Palestine $5 billion dollars…not including the most recent pledge.
As we give them our money, what is the guarantee that what happened will not happen again next week? Next year? Many countries that participated in the conference pushed for peace talks to continue and for a long-standing peace to take place. There were some concerned that Israel and Palestine’s stand off will not last. They will then be asked again to donate money to rebuild a city that these two combatant countries destroyed.
America and various countries can plea for a lasting peace between Israel and Palestine, but if they do not want to keep it then should we continue to give them money to rebuild their cities? Will Israel and Palestine ever be able to break the cycle?
At the Gaza Reconstruction Conference in Cairo, $5.4 billion was raised to aid in rebuilding the Gaza strip…again. Interestingly enough, no one from Israel attended. According to the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, Egyptian officials feared many Arab states would have canceled if they knew an Israeli attended. Want to know how much the U.S. pledged? $400 million by the year’s end.
The U.S. has a long-standing history of giving money to Israel, since WWII more than $121 billion has been given. Since the mid 1990s, the U.S. has given Palestine $5 billion dollars…not including the most recent pledge.
As we give them our money, what is the guarantee that what happened will not happen again next week? Next year? Many countries that participated in the conference pushed for peace talks to continue and for a long-standing peace to take place. There were some concerned that Israel and Palestine’s stand off will not last. They will then be asked again to donate money to rebuild a city that these two combatant countries destroyed.
America and various countries can plea for a lasting peace between Israel and Palestine, but if they do not want to keep it then should we continue to give them money to rebuild their cities? Will Israel and Palestine ever be able to break the cycle?
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PO2 Steven Erickson
I immediately see the failure mechanism in your picture above, Corporal. Your contact has inappropriately placed the Porker unit on an Eagle. Let your peeps at PIA know that if they place the device on a Beagle, the Porker "missile" will be transformed into a Ham "hittile". Ask a brown-shoe to explain it, if necessary. LMAO...
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PO2 Steven Erickson
The Aardvark would have been an EXCELLENT platform choice... They ("them" who are not "us") NEVER listen to us ("we" who are not "they").
7:^D
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Someday Israel and Palestine WILL get along. I SO look forward to that day when unicorns fart rainbows that smell like skittles.
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SSG (Join to see)
No one wants to think that skittles come from unicorn farts.. but, alas, the truth isn't always pleasant... I have a dog and a cat.. they only get along as long as someone is here to watch them.. but when I leave I see my dog chasing my cat and my cat trying to fight the dog when he is asleep.. sound familiar to any one..
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The Israeli-Palestinian conflict explained
This is an important video explaining the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Must watch. This video is not mine but I didn't find it titled in English.
I still have never found a more simple way to explain the problem in the Middle East better than this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngFYOLOkmaI&list=PLITXl2ItF7nzhyuuvQ5YMgrc8U1A37eiQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngFYOLOkmaI&list=PLITXl2ItF7nzhyuuvQ5YMgrc8U1A37eiQ
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Cpl Mark McMiller
Gotta love the indisputable logic of Dennis Prager. How anyone can take the side of the Palestinians over the Israelis boggles the mind; just sheer ignorance.
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LTC (Join to see)
Former President of Iran and others can't stomach this truth since it affects their powerbase and they lose the hate to keep their groups together for a common fight to distract their popluations to from the real ugly truth of their messed up countries or terrorist groups!
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Let's clarify the question before answering it. Will Jews and Muslims ever get along? I start this way because the definition of Palestine and Palestinian has become far too confused in recent usage.
Keep in mind that Israel came into existence with the partition of the area commonly referred to as Palestine: A portion for the Jews and a portion for the non-Jews. However, like the partitioning that occurred in Europe and throughout the Arabian Peninsula and Southeast Asia, states were created where none had existed before and tribes separated by artificially drawn boundaries. Thus, in the case of Israel, it was populated by Palestinian Jews and Muslims. Later, Jews from around the world immigrated there to swell the population.
At first, many Palestinian Muslims fled the country warned by neighboring nations that a Muslim crusade was coming to wipe out the new state of Israel and annihilate the Jews. They were warned to step aside or risk being mistaken for Jews and killed. They were offered the prospect of returning one day to claim the property left by the Jews. When the smoke cleared, the Jews remained and Israel survived. Some Muslims returned and others didn't. Most of the ones who didn't languish to this day in refugee camps. Sadly, the Muslim nations not only didn't make good on their promise of destroying Israel, but also failed to take care of their Muslim brethren. (There is a division among Muslims too complex to explain here.)
In the beginning, Jews and Muslims lived in peace in Israel. To this day, Muslims enjoy equal rights alongside Jews there. Some serve in the IDF, the Israeli Parliament, and other responsible positions in the Israeli government and society. They shopped in each others neighborhoods and ate together as friends. Sadly, Muslim leaders could not rekindle and stoke the fires of enmity and keep alive the dream of destroying Israel under these conditions.
Thus, they proclaimed infitada to divide the Israeli population. I see no reason to believe that if these outside agitators were to cease their agitation and propaganda, the separate Israeli communities could once again heal and begin to live in peace.
Will that ever happen? It seems doubtful, especially when the western governments, particularly that of the United States, continue to encourage the Muslim leaders that they might succeed. Fortunately, I believe that the progressive movement is beginning to fall apart as the people are waking up to the damage it is doing. Political correctness is being exposed, moral relativism is losing traction, and statism is self destructing as people see the potential for tyranny in its practice.
Keep in mind that Israel came into existence with the partition of the area commonly referred to as Palestine: A portion for the Jews and a portion for the non-Jews. However, like the partitioning that occurred in Europe and throughout the Arabian Peninsula and Southeast Asia, states were created where none had existed before and tribes separated by artificially drawn boundaries. Thus, in the case of Israel, it was populated by Palestinian Jews and Muslims. Later, Jews from around the world immigrated there to swell the population.
At first, many Palestinian Muslims fled the country warned by neighboring nations that a Muslim crusade was coming to wipe out the new state of Israel and annihilate the Jews. They were warned to step aside or risk being mistaken for Jews and killed. They were offered the prospect of returning one day to claim the property left by the Jews. When the smoke cleared, the Jews remained and Israel survived. Some Muslims returned and others didn't. Most of the ones who didn't languish to this day in refugee camps. Sadly, the Muslim nations not only didn't make good on their promise of destroying Israel, but also failed to take care of their Muslim brethren. (There is a division among Muslims too complex to explain here.)
In the beginning, Jews and Muslims lived in peace in Israel. To this day, Muslims enjoy equal rights alongside Jews there. Some serve in the IDF, the Israeli Parliament, and other responsible positions in the Israeli government and society. They shopped in each others neighborhoods and ate together as friends. Sadly, Muslim leaders could not rekindle and stoke the fires of enmity and keep alive the dream of destroying Israel under these conditions.
Thus, they proclaimed infitada to divide the Israeli population. I see no reason to believe that if these outside agitators were to cease their agitation and propaganda, the separate Israeli communities could once again heal and begin to live in peace.
Will that ever happen? It seems doubtful, especially when the western governments, particularly that of the United States, continue to encourage the Muslim leaders that they might succeed. Fortunately, I believe that the progressive movement is beginning to fall apart as the people are waking up to the damage it is doing. Political correctness is being exposed, moral relativism is losing traction, and statism is self destructing as people see the potential for tyranny in its practice.
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THIS! Very good write up CPT Durish! It almost seems that no one realizes that the Abrahamic religions have a history of co-existence. Political and religious forces, however, have ignited the fires between them over the years/decades/centuries.
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Simple answer NO! Hard to have piece when one side wants only destruction.
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SGT James Hastings
I agree with MSgt Borders. When a country has as their ideal, your death, how can you expect cooperation unless you are suicidal?
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CPT James Burkholder
No! History shows that this group of people are merely tribes who identify with their tribal or religious culture. They have a group memory that never goes away and will continue to feud because of perceived injury even a thousand years ago. They live not in the present but in a timeless world of grief and hurt. As a result they persist in continuing the hate and fighting.
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SGT Michael Touchet
MSgt Curtis Borders, I agree with you on that, it is an impossibility for Israel to love thy neighbor when thy neighbor wants to destroy every man, women and child of Israel. I equally find it appalling that anyone would blame Israel for feeling that way.
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SPC Johnny Velazquez, PhD
Harmony is not one sided. In order to achieve this level of civility, both parties would have to be in one accord. One side says, "I want unconditional peace," while the other says, "I want peace, but you have to disappear from the face of the earth." In order to become harmonious with one another, each side has to reciprocate. In this instance, Israel seems to be the parent, and the so called Palestinians, the bratty child.
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No. You can't really "get along" with a group of people whose sole purpose in life is to end yours.
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MSG Brad Sand
Guys, I was a recruiter for 20 years and, not to break your bubbles, but there is no way we could take you two...even before the drawdown? Darn SSG, they could not even call you back from the retired reserve...but I would still put my money on either of you over 99.5% of the 21 year olds out there today.
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SFC Boots Attaway
SSG Maurice P. , I agree with you and MSG Brad Sand, I may not pass any physical any more but I can still shoot real good and I dare them to bring their crap around me. I will aim low and turn them into sopranos.
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SSG Maurice P.
MSG Sand i didnt retire from the reserve, if i had i would be makin alot more than retiring with 20years active duty....i had over 8000 points while a reserve but i got on the sanctuary program and the army retired me active duty.
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I just did a bit of undergraduate research on this topic. Israel and Palestine are the closest they have been to peace in years. But they face a similar problem that we do, terrorism. The Hamas are in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, they have political backing from supporters and they are causing plenty of mayhem. Until they leave, there will not be peace.
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CPT Zachary Brooks
Keep electing the nuts, keep seeing the same results.
Hamas is the obvious problem, they need to get out of there.
Hamas is the obvious problem, they need to get out of there.
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not until Christ comes back. they have been at each other's throat since Abraham had Ismael and Isaac, their descendants according to the bible
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