Posted on Dec 8, 2015
Time to get new ID Tags, no more SSN on them, your thoughts?
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Well, DA PAM 600-8-14 was just updated last week and the SSN on our tags has been replaced with our DoD ID Number.
c. All ID tags will have the following information embossed on them:
(1) Line 1. Name of the wearer: Enter last name, first name, middle initial. (If the full name cannot be embossed on
the first line, put the last name on line 1, place the first name and middle initial on line 2. Subsequent entries shift
down one line each. If a U.S. National, the name will be the same as shown on passport or ID card.)
(2) Line 2. (Service Number) Department of Defense (DOD) ID number (10 digits, no hyphens) (The Social
Security number has been replaced by the DOD ID, in accordance with DODI 1000.30.)
(3) Line 3. Blood group and type. Record as "A", "B", "AB", or "O", followed by "POS" OR "NEG." Do not use
plus (+) or minus (-) signs to record the blood type. If the blood type is incorrect the Soldier must update the medical
system of record.
(4) Line 4. Religious preference. Spell this out when possible (the example shown in figures 2–1 and 2–2 is used to
set forth a pattern for guidance). If the religious preference is incorrect, the Soldier must update the personnel system
of record.
Do you think this is going to make any difference, beside the lines to get the new tags and the people you know add some crazy stuff on them, will there be any benefit from it?
AR 670-1 States: 3–11. Identification tags and security identification badges
a. Identification tags. Wearing identification tags is governed by AR 600–8–14.
(1) Soldiers will wear identification tags at all times while on duty in uniform unless otherwise directed by the
commander.
Do you use them every single day? To PT, while on training in Civilians? Will this make any change?
Soldiers' Social Security numbers will no longer be part of their dog tags, the Army announced Tuesday.
The change, which some have argued is long overdue, is the first update to the ubiquitous identification tags in more than 40 years.
A soldier's Social Security number will be replaced by a 10-digit, randomly-generated number. The change will be implemented on an as-needed basis, Michael Klemowski, Soldiers Programs branch chief at Army Human Resources Command, said in a statement released by the Army.
"This change is not something where soldiers need to run out and get new tags made," he said. "We are focusing first on the personnel who are going to deploy. If a soldier is going to deploy, they are the first ones that need to have the new ID tags."
The change is in accordance with new Defense Department guidelines calling for less use of Social Security numbers. It also comes on the heels of several data breaches that compromised the personal information of millions of service members, government employees and veterans.
Removing Social Security numbers from dog tags is one of the ways the Army is trying to safeguard personal information, Klemowski said.
"If you find a pair of lost ID tags, you can pretty much do anything with that person's identify because you now have their blood type, their religion, you have their Social, and you have their name," he said.
The Army has been working on making this change for years; it was first outlined in the DoD Social Security Number Reduction Plan and the President's Task Force on Identity Theft Strategic Plan in 2007, according to the Army.
It took time to figure out how to implement the change because several Army systems used a soldier's Social Security number, and all for different purposes, Klemowski said. Each system had to be reworked so they worked with one another and the DoD ID number, he said.
"More and more systems are going to go to the DoD ID number as technology catches up with us and we are able to phase out the Social Security number," he said.
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/2015/12/08/army-stop-putting-social-security-numbers-dog-tags/76984792/
c. All ID tags will have the following information embossed on them:
(1) Line 1. Name of the wearer: Enter last name, first name, middle initial. (If the full name cannot be embossed on
the first line, put the last name on line 1, place the first name and middle initial on line 2. Subsequent entries shift
down one line each. If a U.S. National, the name will be the same as shown on passport or ID card.)
(2) Line 2. (Service Number) Department of Defense (DOD) ID number (10 digits, no hyphens) (The Social
Security number has been replaced by the DOD ID, in accordance with DODI 1000.30.)
(3) Line 3. Blood group and type. Record as "A", "B", "AB", or "O", followed by "POS" OR "NEG." Do not use
plus (+) or minus (-) signs to record the blood type. If the blood type is incorrect the Soldier must update the medical
system of record.
(4) Line 4. Religious preference. Spell this out when possible (the example shown in figures 2–1 and 2–2 is used to
set forth a pattern for guidance). If the religious preference is incorrect, the Soldier must update the personnel system
of record.
Do you think this is going to make any difference, beside the lines to get the new tags and the people you know add some crazy stuff on them, will there be any benefit from it?
AR 670-1 States: 3–11. Identification tags and security identification badges
a. Identification tags. Wearing identification tags is governed by AR 600–8–14.
(1) Soldiers will wear identification tags at all times while on duty in uniform unless otherwise directed by the
commander.
Do you use them every single day? To PT, while on training in Civilians? Will this make any change?
Soldiers' Social Security numbers will no longer be part of their dog tags, the Army announced Tuesday.
The change, which some have argued is long overdue, is the first update to the ubiquitous identification tags in more than 40 years.
A soldier's Social Security number will be replaced by a 10-digit, randomly-generated number. The change will be implemented on an as-needed basis, Michael Klemowski, Soldiers Programs branch chief at Army Human Resources Command, said in a statement released by the Army.
"This change is not something where soldiers need to run out and get new tags made," he said. "We are focusing first on the personnel who are going to deploy. If a soldier is going to deploy, they are the first ones that need to have the new ID tags."
The change is in accordance with new Defense Department guidelines calling for less use of Social Security numbers. It also comes on the heels of several data breaches that compromised the personal information of millions of service members, government employees and veterans.
Removing Social Security numbers from dog tags is one of the ways the Army is trying to safeguard personal information, Klemowski said.
"If you find a pair of lost ID tags, you can pretty much do anything with that person's identify because you now have their blood type, their religion, you have their Social, and you have their name," he said.
The Army has been working on making this change for years; it was first outlined in the DoD Social Security Number Reduction Plan and the President's Task Force on Identity Theft Strategic Plan in 2007, according to the Army.
It took time to figure out how to implement the change because several Army systems used a soldier's Social Security number, and all for different purposes, Klemowski said. Each system had to be reworked so they worked with one another and the DoD ID number, he said.
"More and more systems are going to go to the DoD ID number as technology catches up with us and we are able to phase out the Social Security number," he said.
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/2015/12/08/army-stop-putting-social-security-numbers-dog-tags/76984792/
Posted 9 y ago
Responses: 47
We all know when entering the mess hall we had to give the last 4 of our SSN. One day entering the mess hall, I was behind one of my guys. He gave his last 4, it was written down. I gave my last for, I was told, "You can't do that". I asked what? The SGT told me I couldn't use the same last for as the guy before me. We both had to pull our I.D. cards and show we both had the same last 4! How many times will that happen, the guy your in line with?
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SGM Mikel Dawson
PO2 (Join to see) - Yea, looking back, maybe I should have bought a ticket that day!!
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
I had an appointment at the Dental clinic at Hickam AFB, HI years ago, the NCO at the counter called Me over, seems except for the last digit our social security numbers were identical. Turns out she not only went to the same Air Force recruiter as Me but We stood in line at the same social Security officer in Framingham, MA to get our numbers. Her last number was 4 mine was 6, the person with 5 stood between us in the line. She said it was like writing Her own social security number until She got to the last number when writing mine on a form.
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SSG (Join to see)
I had a Soldier in AIT pop hot for cocaine, he swore up and down it wasn't him. Come to find out, two Soldiers had the same last four and they hit the first guy alphabetical that had it. They eventually fixed the problem and kicked out the right guy, but it was a mess for about a week or two for the wrong guy. Could you imagine being looked at as a shit bag druggie for more than a week?
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I agree. Good idea. Obviously I am dating myself but my dog tags had a 10 digit "service number" on them instead of my SS #. They changed to the SS # after I was off active duty but still in the reserves. Not sure what year. Too many things have the SS # on them and it can be used for too many bad things.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
Sgt Pesz, When i first came in We had serial numbers, while I was still on active duty they changed to social security numbers.
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LTC Stephen C.
SGT Jerrold Pesz, service numbers ended and utilization of Social Security numbers began on 1JUL69. When I enlisted on 9AUG69, my SS # was on my dog tags. I still have the originals.
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It was a great idea for it's time, but due to stolen identities, it's time for a change. I'd recommend something maybe a serial number like what was had in the days before. Can I get my unit motto in place of my SSN? That would be real cool.Hell RP how many of you STILL have your dog tags and know where they are?
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SSG Warren Swan
I have one set hanging by the computer. The same place I left them three years ago. In fact they're still with my ID's from IFOR and TF Phoenix.
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