Posted on Dec 8, 2019
Shouldn't a soldier be taken of the duty rosters when they are 30 days from starting terminal leave?
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I currently have 14 days left before I start terminal leave ... Apart from other problems I am having in starting a smooth transition. I am put on details or SD. I keep hearing that when a soldier is 30 days out he/she should not be on any duty rosters. Is this true?
Posted 5 y ago
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Why would that be true at all? Being on the duty roster means you get the next day off to take care of any personal appointments you wouldn't normally be able to take care of during the duty day.
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SPC Stewart Smith Staff Duty is a 24 hour shift and you get the next day off. It wouldn't make any sense to get the next day off on a 12 hour shift.
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SPC Stewart Smith
SFC (Join to see) - Ah. Yes. I've never actually had staff duty.
I'll be right back; gotta remove my foot from my mouth.
I'll be right back; gotta remove my foot from my mouth.
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SPC Stewart Smith lol to be fair, that shift work you described is pretty horrible and unless you were short on bodies there's no reason you should be rode hard like that for four months straight
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SPC Stewart Smith
SFC (Join to see) - It wasn't bad. We played a lot of spades and Risk. Not nearly as bad as deployment.
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I have never seen that, in fact I've seen quite the opposite. Usually the Duty roster is loaded with the guys in their last few months stopping only when it's time to clear.
Good luck with your transition to civilian life.
Good luck with your transition to civilian life.
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SPC Stewart Smith
Lol YUP!
When I PCS'd from my first duty station I was on "fire watch" every other weekend.
However when I ETS'd from my second duty station I wasn't on a single schedule for any duty.
When I PCS'd from my first duty station I was on "fire watch" every other weekend.
However when I ETS'd from my second duty station I wasn't on a single schedule for any duty.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
When I was in Germany in the 80s the US military E7s were set up to pull CP (Courtesy Patrol) with the Polizei (German Police) around Frankfort and general Rhein area. I was there on detached duty but I never found myself on the 'Patrol'.
It was 10 months, later near the end of the 1 year TDY, I ran into a buddy from my SLC (back then ANCOC) and he was on the patrol. It was hard to forget the guy since his named was exactly the same as mine except his his middle name was Edwin not Edward. Still the roster for the duty didn't say middle names nor did it give units since the distribution was to the command and the element's J3 shops were on the list. The J2 shops didn't make the cut. I investigated Soviet missions (SOXMIS/SMLM) violations and I occasionally was seconded to a MLM team out of Potsdam, under the U.S. Military Liaison Missions (USMLM).
Technically I was the J2 SGM for my element so I would have been exempt BUT it was obvious to both of us that he had spent the whole time (he was stationed at Frankfort) he was TDY being shafted. I didn't know - I wasn't on the list and quite frankly I would have used my position, being 24 hours on call to get out of it.
I did go the next day to the Rhein Main USAF Base HQ responsible, presenting myself to their Senior Master Sergeant who had been given the detail of making the roster. My buddy accompanied me since he was on comptime from the night before. It got straightened out - 10 months after it shouldn't have happened.
However to make it up to him when I went back to my border cavalry unit I got him my job under the J2 I was TDY with. I even turned over my SGM 'costume'.
***An aside - my shop officer - the brigadier general had long since flocked me to SGM for my liaison duties with the Soviets. He instructed me to wear my 'updated' dress green uniform with sewn SGM rank for the visit. I had gotten approved for the whole range of SGM uniforms for the job.)
Anyway - I three things about Duty rosters out of the deal.
1. Mistakes will be made - after all to the USAF SMSgt didn't we were virtual twins in the paperwork.
2. Corrections can be made BUT there's no going back - only fixes.
3. If you don't know then you don't know - is your Chain of information aware of your upcoming appointment? During my active service I have slipped a Soldier or NCO or two into the CQ, Guard, Patrol, SD and etc duties so my personnel that are clearing can make their scheduled but unavoidable appointments. You need to tell them.
It was 10 months, later near the end of the 1 year TDY, I ran into a buddy from my SLC (back then ANCOC) and he was on the patrol. It was hard to forget the guy since his named was exactly the same as mine except his his middle name was Edwin not Edward. Still the roster for the duty didn't say middle names nor did it give units since the distribution was to the command and the element's J3 shops were on the list. The J2 shops didn't make the cut. I investigated Soviet missions (SOXMIS/SMLM) violations and I occasionally was seconded to a MLM team out of Potsdam, under the U.S. Military Liaison Missions (USMLM).
Technically I was the J2 SGM for my element so I would have been exempt BUT it was obvious to both of us that he had spent the whole time (he was stationed at Frankfort) he was TDY being shafted. I didn't know - I wasn't on the list and quite frankly I would have used my position, being 24 hours on call to get out of it.
I did go the next day to the Rhein Main USAF Base HQ responsible, presenting myself to their Senior Master Sergeant who had been given the detail of making the roster. My buddy accompanied me since he was on comptime from the night before. It got straightened out - 10 months after it shouldn't have happened.
However to make it up to him when I went back to my border cavalry unit I got him my job under the J2 I was TDY with. I even turned over my SGM 'costume'.
***An aside - my shop officer - the brigadier general had long since flocked me to SGM for my liaison duties with the Soviets. He instructed me to wear my 'updated' dress green uniform with sewn SGM rank for the visit. I had gotten approved for the whole range of SGM uniforms for the job.)
Anyway - I three things about Duty rosters out of the deal.
1. Mistakes will be made - after all to the USAF SMSgt didn't we were virtual twins in the paperwork.
2. Corrections can be made BUT there's no going back - only fixes.
3. If you don't know then you don't know - is your Chain of information aware of your upcoming appointment? During my active service I have slipped a Soldier or NCO or two into the CQ, Guard, Patrol, SD and etc duties so my personnel that are clearing can make their scheduled but unavoidable appointments. You need to tell them.
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Do your duty. You will ETS soon enough.
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