Posted on Jul 6, 2019
No Grunts Under 26, $250K Bonuses: DoD's Most Radical Ideas to Transform the Infantry
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11X: Infantry Recruit
11B: Infantryman
11C: Indirect Fire Infantryman (Mortarman)
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My two cents on this.
Notice how every other lethal organization focuses on meeting basic qualifications, drill & ceremony, and training. Why go to drastic lengths when changing the mentality is all it really takes. Take the PC out of the military and focus on fighting and winning wars. That's it.
Notice how every other lethal organization focuses on meeting basic qualifications, drill & ceremony, and training. Why go to drastic lengths when changing the mentality is all it really takes. Take the PC out of the military and focus on fighting and winning wars. That's it.
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SGT Javier Silva
SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA - Technically they are some of the best at D&C, when someone tells them the importance of it. D&C isn't about marching movements, it is about traditions, and how the chain of command truly works. Just because the Rangers don't put it in practice everyday doesn't mean they don't go through it. Unless you're telling me that you have gone through Ranger school.
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
SGT Javier Silva I'm referring to members of the 75th Ranger Regiment. I served in A 3/75 for a little over a year. We didn't do D&C ever, except the basics. I did go to Ranger School, but I didn't graduate, which is why I left the Regiment. What I saw of Ranger School had only the very basic D&C.
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SSG Robert Webster
SGT Javier Silva - Look at SPC Henry's profile.
I do agree with you though. What most people including those like the aforementioned individual do not understand that everything else is built off of the 'basics' so they dismiss them as being irrelevant.
I do agree with you though. What most people including those like the aforementioned individual do not understand that everything else is built off of the 'basics' so they dismiss them as being irrelevant.
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SFC Robert Falco
D&C is about ceremony and tradition, it's also about discipline and precision. Check your history, Gen. Washington employed Baron Von Stueben to help turn his ragtag army into an effective fighting force, D&C was one of the methods he used to do this.
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I have to agree with some of the comments already made. I went through OSIT in the 80's and then was a BCT DS in the early 2000's. Night and day people. The environment and the way in which discipline was meted out were completely different. The current PC culture has turned BCT into to Club Med. They need to drop all the bs training and concentrate on war fighting as some have stated and instill discipline and respect from the start. Unfortunately most of the kids coming through the system right know have little of either.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
You went through in my era, D8-2 Harmony Church, but there seems to have been some changes from when we went through OSUT with Basic in general. Does the Army still do the Remedial PT course before allowing anyone without at least 50 points in each section of the APFT to start Basic? They seem to put most people out with "unable to adjust" rather than recycling them. And they have to make weight when they walk into MEPS. If you can maintain being overweight during Infantry OSUT, they have really wimped down the course.
They still had the Basic Education program for the functionally illiterate guys coming in back the too.
They still had the Basic Education program for the functionally illiterate guys coming in back the too.
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SFC Bhrett Sikkema
CPT Lawrence Cable - C-2-2 Harmony Church. We would get kids who could barely pass or who could get close and be expected to "make it work" while doing everything else that was required.
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
A lot of people would. Personally, I thought about it before I got out. I would have needed a half a million a year to consider staying in.
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