Posted on Aug 18, 2017
Today in History: “The Hardest Day” in Battle of Britain (1940)
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Thanks SGT John " Mac " McConnell for reminding us and sharing the video when on August 18th, 1940 when the German Luftwaffe decided to try and destroy the UK Fighter Command SGT John " Mac " McConnell.
My parents were teenagers during the Battle of Britain and every day was challenge to survive, thrive, and in their case go to school with the threat of bombs in may father's case a daily occurrence.
Of course the indomitable spirit of the British people and military forces prevailed. Desperate straits to heroes make - they also separate the wheat from the chaff.
Hitler allowed the British force to be extricated from France in may 1940 in may 1940 - despite Heinz Guderian' s urging to destroy the British forces.
Hitler the turned to Herman Goering's Luftwaffe to bring UK to its collective knees. That was a foolish and costly gambit.
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. LTC Ivan Raiklin, Esq. Capt Seid Waddell Capt Tom Brown SFC William Farrell SSgt Robert Marx Maj Marty Hogan PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SSG William Wall MSgt Jason McClish AN Christopher Crayne LTC Bill Koski Sgt Trevor Barrett SPC Tom DeSmet SGT Charles H. Hawes LTC Wayne Brandon SGT (Join to see)
My parents were teenagers during the Battle of Britain and every day was challenge to survive, thrive, and in their case go to school with the threat of bombs in may father's case a daily occurrence.
Of course the indomitable spirit of the British people and military forces prevailed. Desperate straits to heroes make - they also separate the wheat from the chaff.
Hitler allowed the British force to be extricated from France in may 1940 in may 1940 - despite Heinz Guderian' s urging to destroy the British forces.
Hitler the turned to Herman Goering's Luftwaffe to bring UK to its collective knees. That was a foolish and costly gambit.
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. LTC Ivan Raiklin, Esq. Capt Seid Waddell Capt Tom Brown SFC William Farrell SSgt Robert Marx Maj Marty Hogan PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SSG William Wall MSgt Jason McClish AN Christopher Crayne LTC Bill Koski Sgt Trevor Barrett SPC Tom DeSmet SGT Charles H. Hawes LTC Wayne Brandon SGT (Join to see)
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SGT John " Mac " McConnell
I could only imagine the stories your father had LTC Stephen F. . Thanks and have a great day.
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History Channel (HC) missed a few points:
1. RAF tactics did not change during the Battle Of Britain (BOB) - they changed before. HC forgets that Britain was actually fighting in France/Europe prior to BOB. When RAF planes met the Germans for the first time, *OVER EUROPE* - the German "finger four" formation was vastly different from that which everyone used pre-war. It enabled the Germans to mutually support each other. It did not guarantee them victory but it was different. The RAF changed accordingly. The RAF learned that its pre-war tactics were ineffective and changed them at a wing level. Slow Hurricanes and Boulton-Paul Defiants would not fly with faster Spitfires. They instead left the Spitfires to fighter combat and everything else to the bombers. With the exception of the JU-88, the German bombers were slow, easy targets. Also note that German tactics didn't change EITHER. Stuka's were left alone to bomb alone and even the US Navy/Japan knew that dive bombers left alone, get shot down. Yet, the Stuka's were without fighter cover. This would cause the Stuka to be withdrawn from the BOB earlier than needed. This meant less planes to throw against the RAF.
2. BOB was an intelligence/attrition battle. The Germans had lost a vicious 42 planes per day over Dunkirk during 9 days of combat. The Germans were not the supermen that propaganda said. By comparison, they would lose 11 planes per day during the 6 month BOB campaign. The RAF knew this through code reading/breaking. German underestimates of RAF strength were due to MI-6 planting false info. As a result, the first weeks' operations had limited fighter cover. This caused massive bomber losses. By the time the Germans realized that the British were indeed *NOT* down to their last squadron of Spitfires, it was too late. Also note that MI-6 was planting false base information as well. Each base had several satelite bases where planes would be moved. So although the main bases of Northolt, Biggen Hill, etc, were being bombed, most of the planes were elsewhere.
3. Equipment inadequacies. While the ME-109 had a powerful 20mm gun, it had limited ammo. It also had limited fuel. Less than 15 minutes flying time over Britain. As a result, they were easy to defeat. RADAR picked up German formations and at the "right" moment, the RAF would scramble, ensuring maximum fuel. This gave the RAF an edge as every pilot was able to fight an ME-109 for experience. If the training was not good enough, the young newbie pilot only had to fly away as the German - low on fuel - was loathe to pursue. As a result, the RAF honed its AAW skills overnight.
4. Additionally, it should be noted that RAF pilots were bailing out over Britain, always picked up (death or alive) and returned to combat that day. German pilots bailing out were out of the war. One escaped (Franz Werra) but the rest were out of combat for the war. This affected German strength. After becoming an "ace", an RAF pilot was withdrawn from duty and sent to training. This also kept a cadre of experienced pilots on hand for emergencies. The Germans on the other hand were flying till shot down with no respite.
1. RAF tactics did not change during the Battle Of Britain (BOB) - they changed before. HC forgets that Britain was actually fighting in France/Europe prior to BOB. When RAF planes met the Germans for the first time, *OVER EUROPE* - the German "finger four" formation was vastly different from that which everyone used pre-war. It enabled the Germans to mutually support each other. It did not guarantee them victory but it was different. The RAF changed accordingly. The RAF learned that its pre-war tactics were ineffective and changed them at a wing level. Slow Hurricanes and Boulton-Paul Defiants would not fly with faster Spitfires. They instead left the Spitfires to fighter combat and everything else to the bombers. With the exception of the JU-88, the German bombers were slow, easy targets. Also note that German tactics didn't change EITHER. Stuka's were left alone to bomb alone and even the US Navy/Japan knew that dive bombers left alone, get shot down. Yet, the Stuka's were without fighter cover. This would cause the Stuka to be withdrawn from the BOB earlier than needed. This meant less planes to throw against the RAF.
2. BOB was an intelligence/attrition battle. The Germans had lost a vicious 42 planes per day over Dunkirk during 9 days of combat. The Germans were not the supermen that propaganda said. By comparison, they would lose 11 planes per day during the 6 month BOB campaign. The RAF knew this through code reading/breaking. German underestimates of RAF strength were due to MI-6 planting false info. As a result, the first weeks' operations had limited fighter cover. This caused massive bomber losses. By the time the Germans realized that the British were indeed *NOT* down to their last squadron of Spitfires, it was too late. Also note that MI-6 was planting false base information as well. Each base had several satelite bases where planes would be moved. So although the main bases of Northolt, Biggen Hill, etc, were being bombed, most of the planes were elsewhere.
3. Equipment inadequacies. While the ME-109 had a powerful 20mm gun, it had limited ammo. It also had limited fuel. Less than 15 minutes flying time over Britain. As a result, they were easy to defeat. RADAR picked up German formations and at the "right" moment, the RAF would scramble, ensuring maximum fuel. This gave the RAF an edge as every pilot was able to fight an ME-109 for experience. If the training was not good enough, the young newbie pilot only had to fly away as the German - low on fuel - was loathe to pursue. As a result, the RAF honed its AAW skills overnight.
4. Additionally, it should be noted that RAF pilots were bailing out over Britain, always picked up (death or alive) and returned to combat that day. German pilots bailing out were out of the war. One escaped (Franz Werra) but the rest were out of combat for the war. This affected German strength. After becoming an "ace", an RAF pilot was withdrawn from duty and sent to training. This also kept a cadre of experienced pilots on hand for emergencies. The Germans on the other hand were flying till shot down with no respite.
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