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LTC Stephen F.
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That is interesting SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL. I am glad the Army is offering early separation pay for soldiers who are being forced out including 15 year early retirement.
Back in 1992 when I was forced out with over 16 years active duty there was no authority for me to be to retire early. I know the Lord knew my desire to be a soldier and he allowed me to leave the RA and accept a USAR commission which allowed me to serve until 2008 by His grace.
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
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LTC Stephen F. thanks for the response and sharing your personal experience. Wow times have changed! Like the old saying, "its better to have something, than nothing".
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SSG Warren Swan
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involuntary separation pay....this is BS of the highest. I understand why a SM should get it, and I fully support it. What I don't like about it is should the SM try to ever come back in, he has to pay that mess back. If you're being put out and you're NOT at fault, then it should be forgiven, OR prorated should you be allowed to continue your service again in an active position. If I am wrong PLEASE correct me, but that is how I understood invol sep pay.
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
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SSG Warren Swan thanks for the education brother. I was not aware of paying back sep/pay wow is that unfair, when you was involuntary forced out. Is it any logic between the Pentagon, Congress and the White House. Somebody needs to fix this crap!
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SSG Warren Swan
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL - I could be wrong, so I'm hoping I am actually, but this is how I took it. Logic and military? That's like PT belts on COB's or OP's?
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SFC William Farrell
SFC William Farrell
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL - Its like anything the government does for us Joe, if they pay you and you want to do something else later, you are paying them back. My brother was discharged after Vietnam with a lump sum disability payment from the Army. Prior to him starting to receive VA disability payments from the VA, he had to pay all that lump sum back. I think it took him a couple years before he was caught up to start receiving payments from the VA.
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Capt Tom Brown
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"Used to be" there was a time if a SM left for almost any reason with less than 19/6 s/he got absolutely nothing for their time. Always thought this was a horrible injustice for those who had served honorably and dedicated themselves to honest service, yet were passed over twice or just decided to hang it up after maybe 10 yrs or so. Now things have changed and even the current compensation plan provides 'retirement' pay for time less than 20 yrs. In addition there is a savings plan comparable to many major successful private sector companies to help SMs accumulate a good saving account. The various severance pay plans referred to in the article are other fair forms of compensation for those eligible to avail themselves. Times have really changed and many people feel for the better.
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