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If you look back, Israel and Palestine have an extremely turbulent history that has caused devastation on both sides. If you were to ask if they will ever be at peace, based on the past, the answer would be no. Time and time again Israel and Palestine have gone back and forth, leaving a path of destruction and asking for other countries to help pick up the pieces.
At the Gaza Reconstruction Conference in Cairo, $5.4 billion was raised to aid in rebuilding the Gaza strip…again. Interestingly enough, no one from Israel attended. According to the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, Egyptian officials feared many Arab states would have canceled if they knew an Israeli attended. Want to know how much the U.S. pledged? $400 million by the year’s end.
The U.S. has a long-standing history of giving money to Israel, since WWII more than $121 billion has been given. Since the mid 1990s, the U.S. has given Palestine $5 billion dollars…not including the most recent pledge.
As we give them our money, what is the guarantee that what happened will not happen again next week? Next year? Many countries that participated in the conference pushed for peace talks to continue and for a long-standing peace to take place. There were some concerned that Israel and Palestine’s stand off will not last. They will then be asked again to donate money to rebuild a city that these two combatant countries destroyed.
America and various countries can plea for a lasting peace between Israel and Palestine, but if they do not want to keep it then should we continue to give them money to rebuild their cities? Will Israel and Palestine ever be able to break the cycle?
At the Gaza Reconstruction Conference in Cairo, $5.4 billion was raised to aid in rebuilding the Gaza strip…again. Interestingly enough, no one from Israel attended. According to the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, Egyptian officials feared many Arab states would have canceled if they knew an Israeli attended. Want to know how much the U.S. pledged? $400 million by the year’s end.
The U.S. has a long-standing history of giving money to Israel, since WWII more than $121 billion has been given. Since the mid 1990s, the U.S. has given Palestine $5 billion dollars…not including the most recent pledge.
As we give them our money, what is the guarantee that what happened will not happen again next week? Next year? Many countries that participated in the conference pushed for peace talks to continue and for a long-standing peace to take place. There were some concerned that Israel and Palestine’s stand off will not last. They will then be asked again to donate money to rebuild a city that these two combatant countries destroyed.
America and various countries can plea for a lasting peace between Israel and Palestine, but if they do not want to keep it then should we continue to give them money to rebuild their cities? Will Israel and Palestine ever be able to break the cycle?
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I don't see Palestine getting along with Palestine. T.E. Lawrence: So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people - greedy, barbarous, and cruel, as you are.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
I guess it all depends upon who is willing to relinquish their hatred first...
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MSG Brad Sand
CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
In truth, the Israelis have tried to work toward peace but the Palestinians have always demanded more and then started killing again? Hard to work with people when their only goal is to kill you. I do not even think they really even know why.
In truth, the Israelis have tried to work toward peace but the Palestinians have always demanded more and then started killing again? Hard to work with people when their only goal is to kill you. I do not even think they really even know why.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
MSG Brad Sand - Agreed. Epigenetically, when you don't know what you don't know and don't even know that you don't know it, one is pretty much doomed to living out one's genetic history.
http://discovermagazine.com/2013/may/13-grandmas-experiences-leave-epigenetic-mark-on-your-genes
http://discovermagazine.com/2013/may/13-grandmas-experiences-leave-epigenetic-mark-on-your-genes

Grandma's Experiences Leave Epigenetic Mark on Your Genes | DiscoverMagazine.com
Your ancestors' lousy childhoods or excellent adventures might change your personality, bequeathing anxiety or resilience by altering the epigenetic expressions of genes in the brain.
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Israel and Palestine will only learn to work together when they realize and accept that they came from the same Father. In essence when they practice Honor thy Father and stop listening to the politicians and religious leader that disobey that Commandment.
Interesting fact Obey God you have peace, obey men you have war.
Interesting fact Obey God you have peace, obey men you have war.
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My guess, not until armageddon, and then it will only be due to the fact that neither will continue to exist.
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In the pre WWII days the Jews and Palestinians did get along. The repatriation aided by Great Britain and following heavy handed tactics towards Palestine led to the first real tensions. The forcible removal of the residents and taking of their property to give the Jews an upper hand, supported by Western nations, lit the fuse. The events of 1947 only exacerbated the situation.
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Yes. For a period of three and a half years there will be peace. Sometime in the near future I don't doubt.
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LCpl Paul Fajardo
Honestly, I don't think they will get along for more then a years time. If, you take a look back in history. They've been fighting each other for centuries.
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I would love to live and see them coexist..... However, it's going to take generations of forgiveness and acceptance to see this as a reality
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There is a significant amount of history to take into account and the conflict between the Israeli government and Hamas is largely along political ideological lines as opposed to necessarily religious lines. There is a solution for peace, but it requires a level of cooperation that I'm not sure Hamas nor Israel is able to accept right now. I think it would be easier for Israel and the west to accept a more PLO style rule in the west bank as opposed to Hamas, but I'm not positive that any of us will see that anytime in the near future. Its hard for Palestinian people to really accept an isolated state the way it is now, and its hard for the west to accept a NON-isolated state (at least the louder aspects of the west). Neither Hamas nor the historically recent mindset of the PLO are directly against Israel having a sovereign state, but the conflict is so muddled in violence and rhetoric that its hard to definitively nail down the exact desires of either side. It also doesn't help that border lines, while roughly drawn along some sort of logical reasoning, don't necessarily take into account true tribal borders.
The Elon Peace Plan seemed to have an interesting logical take in terms of tribal breakdowns, but it was backwards on which country should absorb the west bank IMO. I think a more palatable solution might be if Jordan absorbed the west bank and became a pan-arab state but its hard to say that Gaza should remain as some sort of independent Palestinian state under Hamas or Fatah, be absorbed by Israel, be some sort of Jordanian state separated by Israel, or what. Either way, its hard and I'm not sure we will see peace break out in the next 30-40 years which is understandable since boundary lines have been moving around a decent amount over the recent past.
And yeah, I realize that my two paragraph response was in no way an answer.
The Elon Peace Plan seemed to have an interesting logical take in terms of tribal breakdowns, but it was backwards on which country should absorb the west bank IMO. I think a more palatable solution might be if Jordan absorbed the west bank and became a pan-arab state but its hard to say that Gaza should remain as some sort of independent Palestinian state under Hamas or Fatah, be absorbed by Israel, be some sort of Jordanian state separated by Israel, or what. Either way, its hard and I'm not sure we will see peace break out in the next 30-40 years which is understandable since boundary lines have been moving around a decent amount over the recent past.
And yeah, I realize that my two paragraph response was in no way an answer.
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Golda Meir, late Prime Minister of Israel, said it best. "If the Arabs lay down their weapons and stop attacking Israel, there will be peace. If Israel lays down its weapons, Israel will cease to exist."
There are no Jews in Gaza, they have been removed long ago via ethnic cleansing. Israel has never been invited to any conference in Gaza, because Gaza has been for several years under control of Hamas, a radical Islamic terrorist group. Under the Oslo Accords, there were established A, B and C Zones in the West Bank. In A Zones, no Jews are allowed on pain of death. In B Zones, Jews may in theory transit through a B Zone, but in reality, Jews transiting through B Zones are in mortal danger of attack by Arabs. In C Zones, Jews may live, and so can Arabs. In the West Bank therefore, there is no "Israel apartheid state", it is in fact quite the opposite. Arabs can live in A, B and C Zones, Jews can only live in C Zones, and even there they are in danger.
There is NO "moral equivalence" between Israel and Hamas. I have in my career worked with several IDF officers, and I've never met any military group that takes more effort to prevent civilian casualties, not even us. Israel has NEVER set out on any military mission with the goal to kill old people, unarmed civilians and infants. Hamas has provided us with home movies from their own terrorists showing them killing innocent Israeli civilians. This includes footage of Hamas terrorists beheading Israeli babies. I can find no rationale for anyone to support any group that sends out armed terrorists to behead babies.
There are no Jews in Gaza, they have been removed long ago via ethnic cleansing. Israel has never been invited to any conference in Gaza, because Gaza has been for several years under control of Hamas, a radical Islamic terrorist group. Under the Oslo Accords, there were established A, B and C Zones in the West Bank. In A Zones, no Jews are allowed on pain of death. In B Zones, Jews may in theory transit through a B Zone, but in reality, Jews transiting through B Zones are in mortal danger of attack by Arabs. In C Zones, Jews may live, and so can Arabs. In the West Bank therefore, there is no "Israel apartheid state", it is in fact quite the opposite. Arabs can live in A, B and C Zones, Jews can only live in C Zones, and even there they are in danger.
There is NO "moral equivalence" between Israel and Hamas. I have in my career worked with several IDF officers, and I've never met any military group that takes more effort to prevent civilian casualties, not even us. Israel has NEVER set out on any military mission with the goal to kill old people, unarmed civilians and infants. Hamas has provided us with home movies from their own terrorists showing them killing innocent Israeli civilians. This includes footage of Hamas terrorists beheading Israeli babies. I can find no rationale for anyone to support any group that sends out armed terrorists to behead babies.
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T.E. Lawrence: So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people - greedy, barbarous, and cruel, as you are.
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There will only be peace when one side or the other kills all of the other side.
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