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Posted on Sep 25, 2023
U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs
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Maj Kim Patterson
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You mean publicaly put into print the dark thoughts, the reasons, the plans? That is the extent of what I choose to say today,. I have been in darkness and in light. During the darkest times, I didn’t even get the flashlight out. It was pitch black. But I’m still here,
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PO1 Guy Lewis
PO1 Guy Lewis
12 mo
I am glad you are still here
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Cpl Dennis Arnold
Cpl Dennis Arnold
12 mo
Me too ma'am.
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TSgt Cyber System Operations
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Absolutely get it out! I'm happy you're still here! I think many veterans, self-included, have found ourselves in the dark. We've got to get rid of the stigma behind seeking help.

I know that not everyone will believe as I believe, that's okay. I say that to share my next point. As a Christian, about a year or two ago, I have felt called into Mental Health/Life Coaching and Counseling. I launched a Coaching business (Shepherding Hope, LLC) and I'm 56% done with my master's degree. In all this, Galatians 6:2 has been put on my heart. It has become my life verse, which is to "Bear one another's burden, and so, fulfill the law of Christ."

I'm assuming this is a book you've written. If you wouldn't mind sharing, what is the title of it and where can one get a copy of it?
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CPT Daniel Helix
CPT Daniel Helix
12 mo
Great comment, totally agree. And much of PTSD can be the result in a false guilt, with the assumption you could have controlled things. We need to remember that there are only three things in life we CANNOT control: Other people, other places and other things. This leaves only yourself and your responses. To TSgt Billy G.s point Romans 8:1 & 2 speaks to our freedom in Christ, and Micah 6:8 tells us what to do next. Blessings to you all and I so proud to count myself among you.
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PO3 Edward Riddle
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The first thing I did to start working on my demons was to stop drinking and drugging. And boy did they really come alive then. But that was over 33 years ago and I'm still clean and sober with my demons in check. The main thing that helped me was AA meetings, getting a Sponsor and working the Steps. Of course, that's not for everybody. And then there's NA also. It takes what it takes.
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SPC Matt McNally
SPC Matt McNally
9 mo
This is a tricky way of getting me involved with this! I thought this was an article about struggles and come to find out there’s a built in support group attached to the end! hooyah! I’ve been sober 6 years going on 7!
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Sgt Sheri Lynn
Sgt Sheri Lynn
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May we all stay clean and sober… congrats all, and prayers for those still suffering. SPC Matt McNally TSgt (Join to see) PO3 Edward Riddle PO1 Guy Lewis
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PO3 Edward Riddle
PO3 Edward Riddle
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Sgt Sheri Lynn - Roger your last transmission Brother (I think. By not seeing a name, I have no idea). One Day At A Time!!! Get a sponsor. Work the steps. Trust GOD.
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PO3 Edward Riddle
PO3 Edward Riddle
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Sgt Sheri Lynn - Sister Sheri, I don't know why I thought you were a he when I sent this last post. I have no doubts whatsoever that you are 100% girl (Woman).
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PFC Charles Cloud
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When Northwest Battle Buddies gifted me a service dog it saved my life. My dog Millie, gave me a reason to live where none existed.
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CPT David Gowel
CPT David Gowel
12 mo
I've also had a very positive experience in getting a dog. Not even a service animal and she's made a big difference.
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Sgt Sheri Lynn
Sgt Sheri Lynn
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We got two shelter cats… they changed the entire energy of the whole house for the better!
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I encourage you all (VA staff and VA patients) to listen to the Shawn Ryan Show’s most recent podcast. It was a three part series with a man named Tom Satterly and his wife. They started a foundation callled All Secure Foundation. Dig a little into that, and I think you’ll have your answer. It’s something like 84% of veteran suicides occur following a catastrophic event with their family. For example, their wife leaves them. The next most common cause is command betrayal. So, to answer your question. Start prioritizing servicemen and women’s families. Usually a happy home results in a happy service member. Does your unit have a bunch of leftover money that you have to spend by the end of the year or you lose it? Stop buying useless stuff. Invest in the mental wellbeing of your men and women under your charge. Lastly, stop treating us as just another number. To a certain extent, we understand business is business. However, there are proper ways to go about things. Keep them informed. Even if it’s something they don’t want to hear. You’d be surprised what it means to us when we have a transparent commander that also cares about his/her people.
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CW3 Chuck Eastman
CW3 Chuck Eastman
12 mo
I just finished part III yesterday - profound insight and vulnerability! Tom and Jen are as good as they come. Appreciate you mentioning this in here!
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PVT Tanginika Cuascud
PVT Tanginika Cuascud
12 mo
Very well said and great recommendations!
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SSgt Infantry Squad Leader
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CW3 Chuck Eastman they seem like amazing people. Especially Jen. That three part series was the best one yet.
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Sgt Anthony Schmiedeler
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Acceptance and Commitment therapy and Ketamine therapy were both very beneficial. But the unconditional love of my dogs and cats is probably the most impactful.
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PO1 Guy Lewis
PO1 Guy Lewis
12 mo
My Chihuahua's and their unconditional love.
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SrA Bruce Banner
SrA Bruce Banner
12 mo
My 5 shitzus are the most unconditionally loving creatures I've ever met.
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SGT Michael Hooker
SGT Michael Hooker
12 mo
It is definitely the love you receive from your furry family that holds your dark demons at bay. They were and are the only ones in your life who truly depends upon you, you take that seriously
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SPC Michael Harmon
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I still struggle with the thought of taking a permanent dirt nap. It was really hard when I returned home after my first deployment & almost unbearable after I left the military.
A 72-hour hold in the Brooklyn, NY VA Hospital after an attempt helped me get acquainted with the VA and the PTSD program & of course, a pharmacy worth of meds. Also, drinking & illegal drugs did not help the suicidal ideation at all, so I eventually quit both.
However, I started using food & other vices to fill a void that I didn't even know existed & every time I try to fill this void, it seems bottomless. In all of my PTSD treatment over the last 17 years, not one doctor or therapist ever mentioned that there may be feelings within that something is missing.
While getting mental health treatment at the VA, quitting my vices, and even a trip to Peru for a 7-day ayahuasca retreat have made incremental positive changes in my life, I still struggle daily. I know the VA has started to explore alternative treatments like yoga, tai-chi...etc. Maybe the expanded allowance through the VA of certain psychedelics (psilocybin, ayahuasca, 5-meo-dmt) for combat vets could also be part of the plan.
My feeling of constant emptiness could be due to after leaving the military as a disabled person and unable to function, my sense of worth or purpose was & still is missing. Maybe the VA can provide retreats, seminars, and programs that can help spark that sense of meaning & purpose again or at least give a nudge in that direction.
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CPT David Gowel
CPT David Gowel
12 mo
SPC Michael Harmon I am sorry to hear about the struggles you shared. Please consider the resources on this page to get connected to someone who may be able to help you.
https://www.rallypoint.com/emergency-support
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SrA Bruce Banner
SrA Bruce Banner
12 mo
You'll make it, brother. Stay strong and I will pray for you.
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SGT Michael Hooker
SGT Michael Hooker
12 mo
A pet is in a lot of ways, a Godsend! They can sense your emotions, give nothing but love, and depend on you, which gives you a purpose!
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SGT Frank DeVito
SGT Frank DeVito
12 mo
Check out saveawarrior.org or theheroeshaven.com These are both programs that work a different sort of angle. I co-founded the Heroes Haven and have attended Save a Warrior. These are solid programs and it sounds like you are at a place where you could get a lot out of them.
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LTC Hugo Lentze
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I realized that I had to go to therapy, that I needed someone else to help me work through my doubts and struggles. It's helped alot: I can now identify where those doubts come from, and if I can identify the emotion and where it comes from, I can make behavior changes to overcome that emotion. Step 1 is hard, Step 2 is harder.
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Susan Sabatini
Susan Sabatini
12 mo
As a mental health professional in the community care program, I am so happy to hear therapy helped. Finding the right therapist is critical. I love working with my veterans to help them through the trauma, moral injury, etc. We can't change what happened, but by creating a beginning, middle and end to the trauma, we can help the brain process it and provide tools to manage. Therapy helps, the therapist you connect with is just as important. Susan Sabatini, LMFT (Wilmington NC)
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SPC Eleazar Rodriguez
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It doesn’t help when the VA treats you like trash. For example when benefits are denied in bad faith. Every soldier needs at some point to come back home and accept service is over. This transition comes at a great loss. Suicide comes from depression. Depression comes when sadness becomes the dominant emotional state. When you feel these horrible feeling the VA does not always have people that can relate. Psychiatric medication is not the answer it just numbs the pain. The idea that life itself may not be worth the trouble comes from service itself. You are trained to be selfless, to sacrifice everything for the mission. When the mission is over you have nothing left. When that uniform comes off there is very little to hold on to. Service members need some serious reverse therapy to take the military state of mind away and survive in the real world when your wife leaves you, you lose your friends, people dont relate to you. And one day you come to the VA for help and you get turned away. I have been trying to get help for twenty years and the VA does not have the therapists to assist in long term recovery. Its all about saving money I dont beliveve the VA Directive care about veterans and only tries to do something when a problem is so severe that is making them look bad. The VA saves money if you kill yourself. That’s how they make you feel when you seek out for help. We need therapy, we need our compensation for psychological damage caused by the service not the utter disrespect a veteran gets when applying for a compensation. Most of us want to recover. The VA needs a serious outreach effort to keep veterans engaged with others not isolated. Compensation for mental health issues should be no questions asked. Who are the VA Officers saving money for when they deny benefits? The government needs to be onboard and take responsibility for the cost of rehabilitating the veteran community. Job placement services are needed. What does a veteran do with no job, no friends, no effective therapy, then hits rock bottom and asks for a benefit and the VA denies it? Grow up people and take responsibility for your warriors when they come back home. Blood of the patriots is on the VA hands itself and the first step is to take full responsibility for years of ineptitude and indifference
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PO1 Guy Lewis
PO1 Guy Lewis
12 mo
You and me both brother. You are not alone.
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CPT David Gowel
CPT David Gowel
12 mo
SPC Eleazar Rodriguez and PO1 Guy Lewis I am sorry to hear about what you've had to deal with. Please consider the resources on this page to get connected to someone who may be able to help you.
https://www.rallypoint.com/emergency-support
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PO1 Guy Lewis
PO1 Guy Lewis
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CPT David Gowel - I paid for 9 surgeries to fix my ankles enough to walk again and get out of the wheelchair and the VA still has not service connected them. The VA has mis diagnossed me three times and it took civ doctors to get those changed. But the VA wonders why I don't trust them?
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PO1 Guy Lewis
PO1 Guy Lewis
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CPT David Gowel - The VA will never pay me back for the $$$$ I paid out of pocket to fix my ankles that they should have taken care of in the first place.
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SN Nicola Poitras
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I have been on my journey for over 15 years. I often find myself in a very dark place. I was recently an in-house patient for suicidal thoughts and intentions. What upsets me is there is absolutely no type of therapy. None. No-one to talk through those feelings with. No-one to sound off to. No-ones shoulder to cry on. The nurses are great, but they don't have time to sit and talk to you. There is no one to interact with. Most of the other patients feel the same way, and so we all just keep to ourselves. One guy I did talk to had been there 3 weeks, and made the offhand comment that "Next time I'll just pull the trigger".
The only interaction I had with any type of Psych staff was first thing in the morning at 'rounds'. I was asked how my night was, if I was still feeling suicidal, and if I had any thoughts of hurting myself or others. Thank you for your time, we'll see you tomorrow. After 3 days I was asked are you ready to go home.
So much for suicide prevention.
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Maj Kim Patterson
Maj Kim Patterson
12 mo
I went inpatient with MST to a PTSD unit filled with men, no locking doors, no staff or therapy of any kind, the doctor was mad because my TBI a slowed my thought process and wasted 3 minutes of her precious time. I have a degree and experience in therapy so I started a few sessions of different types. Instead of getting treatment, I was providing it in my worst nightmare,
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SN Nicola Poitras
SN Nicola Poitras
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Maj Kim Patterson I understand completely. MST is my issue too. The doors are never lockable, and there are no specific womens units. They 'squeeze me in' a men's unit if there's room.
Women veterans are so far in the minority there are no permanent women's beds in Psych units anywhere that I know of. We are allowed to use beds on the mental health wards only if there are free beds. The unit I was on I was inbetween 2 male rooms and half way down hallway. Yeah, I felt super safe!
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Sgt Sheri Lynn
Sgt Sheri Lynn
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Maj Kim Patterson SN Nicola Poitras I am right there with you. Men’s units, no locks, no one to talk to. I used to beg the nurses to let me sleep in the “padded room” for violent patients. If no one actually needed the space, they would. It was the only time I slept. My suicide hospital time was all over a decade ago. So far so good. I can still get hopelessness and wish God would just get it over with and take me, but every time I wait, wait, breathe, breathe, cry, write, yell, rip up paper, take a bubble bath, walk outside and scrunch my toes in the earth, anything to grind through and let it pass… so far so good.

MST is a monstrous vile darkness. I think “they” are already trying to change the name to “moral injury”? However, here we are. Here we remain. We aren’t alone. We are actually part of a HUGE group of women (and men) who can reach out, bond together and live.
MST and other casualties of service can isolate us. Please don’t let it.

Just the other night I call the VA Crisis Line. I was in a panic and just wanted to not be alone. They are one of the many tools in my tool box that I use regardless of whether I’m in the darkest of places or just overwhelmed and need to sort things out a bit. A half hour of chat and I was able to get some rest. I’m grateful for those folks.
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CPT David Gowel
CPT David Gowel
12 mo
Sgt Sheri Lynn I am sorry to hear about what you've had to deal with. It sounds like you're well aware of and use this crisis resource (good on you!) so I'm re-sharing it here as a resource for others.
https://www.rallypoint.com/emergency-support
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PO3 Preston Pierce
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In April of this year I was suicidal and checked in at the VA in Clarksburg, WV. I was there until the last week of June. I do not receive any benefits. So I had no income, lost my job, lost my car, lost my home and when I was discharged I was homeless. Not much better off mentally but they got me into the VA in Martinsburg, WV as part of the homeless program. Martinsburg VA did absolutely nothing to address my mental health needs. In fact the only classes that they put me in were drug classes. I've never done drugs a day in my life and that includes marijuana. I told them that the classes they had me in were a waste of my time. I needed mental health assistance. Never got any mental health assistance. In fact it was the opposite. When I got there they told me I could not have my service dog because I didn't disclose I had one during our phone interview. I explained that I did address this during the phone interview and I even confirmed it with the social worker at the Clarksburg VA. Since Martinsburg didn't have it documented they say it didn't come up. So I had to get rid of my dog and I complained to Veterans Advocate. Another veteran would be at his dog in front of fellow Veterans and I complained about that to the Veterans Advocate. My dog is an Afghanistan Veteran and I don't know this dogs backstory but regardless of whether or not his dog is a veteran or not, it doesn't deserve to be beat. Another Veteran was racist and wasn't shy about it and several Veterans went to the Veterans Advocate about this guy. A staff member made sexual advances towards me and when I filed a complaint with Veterans Advocate..... I was kicked out of the VA and was told that I had Disruptive Behavior because I utilized my right to go to the Veterans Advocate. At no time did they help me with my mental health, transportation or housing. One staff member worked with me on finding employment but I never got a job lead. The VA took me from where I had resources to a town where I know not a soul and have no resources. They refuse to get me back to where I am from but they were quick to pick me up and bring me here. Even more quick to kick me out on the streets here where I don't know anyone or have a way to get back to the town I call home. I've been living on the streets for about 8 weeks and for about the last four weeks I have been without all of my medications because I sleep on the Wal Mart parking lot with no address. The VA is about a ten hour walk from where I have all my belongings. I can't tote all of my stuff there and back and I won't just leave it here for other people to just take. I don't know about other VA hospitals but this one here in Martinsburg clearly does not care for Veterans.
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SSG Carlos Madden
SSG Carlos Madden
12 mo
PO3 Preston Pierce - Hi Preston. I just sent you a message offline.
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Maj Kim Patterson
Maj Kim Patterson
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I’m glad you’re here
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Sgt Sheri Lynn
Sgt Sheri Lynn
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PO3 Preston Pierce - I used to hate it when people said “Hang in there”. But please do. Keep breathing one moment at a time. There will be someone who will answer the phone or text or letter. There will be. You matter.
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SrA Bruce Banner
SrA Bruce Banner
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PO3 Preston Pierce - Disabled American Veterans (DAV) picks up and takes home veterans for their medical appointments. All free! I'm a life member. Get with DAV, VFW, or AL and apply for benefits ASAP! You deserve shelter.
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