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So my dad pulled out my grandfather's discharge paperwork and asked me if I could decipher what it said for him. I was able to figure out the majority of it, he was drafted and served with Co B 46th Infantry Battalion of the 5th Armored Division. He was honorably discharged as a Tech 5, but it has a section where it says that he had 2 days time lost for AW 107.

I have searched the internet and can't seem to find much more than that this means he was "punished" under Articles of War 107 but I cannot find any clear information on what article 107 was for. I was just wondering if any military history folks in here could answer this for me?
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Articles of War, section 107.
Almost certainly, he got drunk and was put in confinement for a couple of days.
This article pertains to absence without authority, but it was commonly applied to Soldiers who got drunk to the point of not being able to report for duty the subsequent day. The time they missed was "lost" and they had to make it up before their term was over.
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SSgt John Hopkins
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Were there sentencing standards? My father, 25 days lost
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SSgt John Hopkins - Commander's discretion. A Soldier with a lot of valuable contributions to the unit, might spend a night in the cooler and no further punishment. One that got in a fight, got picked up by MPs, or had a more visible infraction might get a higher-level commander involved and a more serious punishment.
UCMJ has punishment guldelines, but commanders often use their discretion when applying punitive actions, then and now.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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SSgt John Hopkins one of the reasons Congress forced UCMJ on the armed forces after WWII was the random and uneven application of discipline under the Articles of War (Army) and “Rocks and Shoals” (Navy). Check out the book Courts Martial by Chris Bray
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Hi. I'm not a member of the forum, but I've been looking into this question as well. A great many veterans seem to have more than 0 days indicated here, and I think civilians can jump to the worst interpretation of the phrase "Absent Without Leave." After all, there are circumstances under which being AWOL in a time of war is punishable by firing squad, yes? But the Article of War someone else quoted - correctly - indicates a spectrum of behavior. And some discharge papers indicate hundreds of days lost. Usually there was no accompanying court martial to account for this time, and usually the discharges are honorable in spite of whatever the case was. Here's a more innocent example of a situation that could land a soldier in the predicament of having to remain in service after he would otherwise have been dismissed, to make up for lost days. If he'd been doing something dumb that he had no business doing, either because he was drunk or because he was 18 and invincible, and he hurt himself badly enough to render himself unfit for duty, he might have been required to make up the time spent in recovery. Just a thought...
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Pamela Orth
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Wow, my dad received a lapel button for 4 days lost, really, what could that be. He was honorably discharged. He wouldn't have gotten stinking drunk!!!
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SSgt John Hopkins
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WD AGO 53-55 (nka "DD214"); "25 days lost AW 107': were there sentencing guidelines? possibly indicating the offense.
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My father's discharge papers say " 500 Days lost AW 107 Current Enlistment." What do you have to do to get 500 days punishment?
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Janet Barker-Evans
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I don't know but mine says "365 Days Lost under AW 107."
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I can think of a couple. Illness contracted by "negligence" - think STD, not taking malaria drugs was a common culprit. A period of confinement, although 500 days is a long time and would have to be a pretty serious offense.
Rare, but POWs deemed to have not surrendered honorably might fall into this category.
I'd bet on the malaria theory.
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WW2 discharge papers; what does "days lost for Article of War (AW) 107" mean?
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For years I was trying to figure out what "55 days lost under AW 107 meant. Considering my dad was 16 (Normal for WWII) and in uniform as well as in Europe I give him a great deal of slack. I did much worse at 16 and I road the rank roller coaster while in uniform. He went in a PVT reached PFC and left a PVT with an Honorable discharge so all is good. I think he even told me the story of how he lost his rocker when he borrowed a Truck to run some of his guys into town and got caught returning the truck without picking up doughnuts for the gate guard at the motor pool.
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PFC David Butenschoen
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Edited 6 y ago
Time Lost Under AW-107.
I see so many inquiries concerning this particular Article of War, it’s worth including-

"ART. 107. SOLDIERS TO MAKE GOOD TIME LOST. Every soldier who deserts the service of the United States, or who without proper authority absents himself from his organization, station, or duty for more than one day, or who is confined for more than one day under sentence, or while awaiting trial and disposition of his case, if the trial results in conviction, or who through the intemperate use of drugs or alcoholic liquor, or through disease the result of his own misconduct, renders himself unable for more than one day to perform duty shall be liable to serve, after his return to a full duty status, for such period as shall, with the time he may have served prior to such desertion, unauthorized absence, confinement, or inability to perform duty, amount to the full term to his enlistment."

The thing to remember during WWII is that the men were in "for the duration" so regardless, it didn't mean a whole lot. If this is on his honorable discharge, it wasn't very serious.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
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Plus 6 months.
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So far my dad's discharge papers beat all. His says "97 days lost under AW 107 ASR (2 Sep 45) - 92
Lapel button issued. Since he's no longer with us I can't ask him but I think it may have been when he had his appendix removed. From what I remember he was in Iceland but since his records are some of those that were destroyed I can't get his medical records. Just wondering if anyone knows if a surgery could have been included in this AW 107? I can't imagine my Dad leaving otherwise.
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SPC John A.
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It could have been because of surgery, but only in certain circumstances. I wouldn't guess appendicitis is one of those circumstances. But supposing he'd been doing something he wasn't supposed to be doing, and got hurt requiring surgery to treat. In that case, the time lost would almost certainly have been held against him under AW 107. The 97 days wasn't necessarily consecutive, either, but really your dad was the only one who knew the full story. The most important thing to remember is that it doesn't necessarily reflect poorly on his character or his service. It might... but it also might not. So please don't assume the worst. In any case if there were any serious infraction, there would be other indication on the discharge papers, e.g. court martial. At least when I was serving in the 90s, there were two kinds of Article 15 disciplinary actions; one was temporary ("company-grade") and the other, permanent ("field-grade" if I remember correctly). The lesser did not appear on discharge papers but the greater one would. You can see elsewhere in this page what other kinds of things happened to others. I hope that helps.
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Debbie Steiniger
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Thanks for your response. I would never think badly about my dad and his service. He was very proud of the five years he spent there. This is really dumb but somehow he shot himself in the thigh while cleaning his gun and probably because of that he would never allow guns in our house. Maybe that's what the time off was for since he injured himself. He never told us girls about that but I found it somewhere during my Genealogy research. I may be naive but I don't think he would have done anything else that would warrant discipline.
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I had the same question when I saw my father's WWII discharge paper recently. But I believe I'm going to win the prize here -- my father had "56 days lost under AW 107"! I know my dad saw fighting in India, China, and Central Burma, and it must have been horrific because he experienced vivid military-related nightmares throughout his life, but I don't know if that had anything to do with his absence. He was a 100% reliable guy, hardly ever drank alcohol, and was honorably discharged at T/5 grade with a bunch of medals (ha, one was for good conduct). Any wild guess as to why someone could be absent for 56 days? Thank you for your service, all of you vets!
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SPC John A.
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I think you can tell from the other stories on this page, that there are too many possibilities even to guess at in his situation. He was the only one who knew the circumstances. They weren't necessarily 56 consecutive days. If it's the only clue of poor conduct on his discharge papers, then the infraction(s) would have been minor and not in the least reflecting badly on him.
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Lisa Lo
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Thank you, that is comforting information.
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I just received copies of my grandfathers WWII discharge papers. He has "10 days lost under AW 107; lapel button issued". I am confused. Why would they issue him a lapel button for going AWOL?
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Lt Col David Nadeau
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The lapel button was the "ruptured duck" which was worn by members after they were discharged from the service.
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SPC John A.
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The two clauses are unrelated; the lapel button was not issued because he received punishment under AW 107. It was issued because he was honorably discharged. Also, having lost time because he was doing something he wasn't supposed to be doing doesn't necessarily mean he "went AWOL." It just meant that he somehow rendered himself unfit for duty for that length of time - and not necessarily consecutively.
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Since he was drafted, could this be for reporting for service late?
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http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref/AW/index.html

ART. 107. SOLDIERS TO MAKE GOOD TIME LOST.--Every soldier who in an existing or subsequent enlistment deserts the service of the United States or without proper authority absents himself from his organization, station, or duty for more than one day, or who is confined for more than one day under sentence, or while awaiting trial and disposition of his case, if the trial results in conviction, or through the intemperate use of drugs or alcoholic liquor, or through disease or injury the result of his own misconduct, renders himself unable for
more than one day to perform duty, shall be liable to serve, after his return to a full-duty status, for such period as shall, with the time he may have served prior to such desertion, unauthorized absence, confinement, or inability to perform duty, amount to the full term of that part of his enlistment period which he is required to serve with his organization before being furloughed to the Army reserve.

The previous paragraph is copied from the page at the link posted.

I interpret that to mean that Grandpa took a couple days off without authorization. Can't say as I'd blame him either.
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PV2 Eli Meredith
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would conf mean confinement as in POW/MIA
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SSgt Carpenter
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PV2 Eli Meredith - No, Commanders used to have the authority to lock up a soldier.
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Sgt Jeff Kretlow
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My grandfather's DD 214 shows "Lost 5 days under AW 107" and here is the story. He went AWOL from Ft. Benning and traveled via train 30 miles to marry my grandmother, then he returned, all total 5 days. He was caught at the train station by the MP's on his way back to Benning and thrown in stockade overnight. The next day the stood tall in front of the man. His saving grace was that he had a round trip train ticket and he was, in fact, almost back when he was caught. Punishment...taken out of cook/baker position and made an assistant tank driver. He was gone from then until he arrived back in the States in Aug 1945 with ASR of 92 and a T/5 Sgt rank and an Honorable discharge. Long story short, that article was used for a LOT of different things!
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
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Sgt Jeff Kretlow - Tech 4, Tech 5 a CPL.
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