Why do you think it is SO important to the POTUS that there be a Palestinian State?

I hope you don't have any down votes for expressing your opinion. One that I absolutely agree with!

I would also note that Obama is a pansy and a puppet!!!!! The WORST POTUS ever.

OMG YES! Someone finally said it!!! Bahahah

I would ask all service member that although you disagree with the Presidents policy to still uphold respect for the Office of the Commander in Chief.

SGM Charlie Fergurson - "I would also note that Obama is a pansy and a puppet!!!!! The WORST POTUS ever." This quote from above is what I was refering to "I would ask all service member that although you disagree with the Presidents policy to still uphold respect for the Office of the Commander in Chief." from a year ago. Charlie please call me Pedro, my approach is that we non serving members stop and think when serving members read our post, that these young service members see the ranks that we hold and assume if an NCO or Officer says this then I can too. Mentoring continues even once we retire or leave the service.

WOW! That is AWESOME!!

The conflict there has nothing to do with religion but everything to do with how the UN screwed a lot of Arabs over to create Israel. The reason there is so much turmoil and why we are involved is easy to figure out. It just takes research. Israel did not exist 70 years ago as a country but neither did Palestine. The UN, America being one of them, decided to partition land for Israel and Palestine so that each could be an independent state. In conjunction with this the British agreed to stop their mandate and letave the Palestinians to their own devices. So the UN resolution was made but the Arab nations that would be losing land did not agree to the terms. Israel did agree. The UN pushed and signed the resolution. The day after the signing Israel went to war with its bordering nations and took about half the land mandated for Palestine, displacing over 700,000 Arabs and since then has had the 100% backing of the UN and the United States. That's why they don't have peace and that's one of the many reasons America is hated in the middle east.

So as long as Israel continues to occupy Palestine land they will not have peace.

AND THIS POST ISN'T ANTI-SEMETIC IT'S HISTORY.

SSgt Randy Saulsberry, I agree with you on all points except your assertion that this has nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with religion. Without religion, there would have been no impetus to establish this Jewish State in this precise location; without religion, people would have been content to merely go and resettle wherever they could.

SSgt Randy Saulsberry, and Maj Paul Hoiland, it is also history that during WWII Jews were denied safe haven in Cuba and the US, as well through out the world. Following the WWII the Jew that survived were permitted to relocate and then left to their own survival. The issue with Palestinians will only be resolved when both people politics aside seat down and dialogue.

@Leonard, which means that as brothers they must work together to defeat their enemies.

well Sir.....according to history....and what I'm seeing on TV....not going to happen anytime soon.....I think the hajjis are going to come after us here....Israel will never be destroyed beyond belief until our Lord comes and sets his Kingdom up. Just an opinion.

SSG Leonard by the same token the Lord is waiting for humans to use their free will and solve their problems and stop pass it on to Him.

Huh????? you must be reading the humanistic bible son

He's either a Muslim, or unbelievably incompetent in dealing with the Middle East. His constant actions in dealing with Christians/Muslim/Jewish relations make it pretty obvious to anyone paying attention.

Ibn Jarir and Ibn Abi Hatim have narrated through al-`Awfi from Ibn 'Abbas (that he said about this verse): `So taqiyyah is by tongue. Whoever is compelled to say something which is disobedience of Allah and he speaks it because of those people's fear while his heart remains steadfast in the faith, it will do him no harm; verily TAQIYYAH is with the tongue only.'

If he states he isn't muslim, it doesn't mean that he doesn't have islam in his heart. By the shari-ya he can publicly state he isn't muslim even if he "remains steadfast in the faith" in his heart. Actions speak louder than words.

SSG Becker,

Jews have a very similar payer called the Kol Nidre...basically allowing them to say one thing and then do another...a license to lie if you will.

Kol Nidre is not even remotely similar. That's not at all what Kol Nidre means. SMH.

Kol Nidre is a prayer (not even in almost all Jewish prayer books), during the day of atonement, where Jews repent and ask forgiveness. A part of that prayer, the Jew will declare to God that his/her vow to God is above all other vows, promises, contracts, they have made over the past year since the last day of atonement.

Its funny how none of the other Muslim nations are willing to give any of their land to the palistinians...wonder why that is? They will only be happy when Israel is gone.

If the Palestinians woud reject terrorism and negotiate with Israel a deal is possible. As long as they choose to side with Hezbollah, Hammas and others there will be no deal. Palestine exists because they are protected by the UN. Israel should have run them over and out of the area,. We would have done so has a neighbor been lobbing rockets into our cities, digging tunnels for terrorist attacks, staging weapons for terrorists etc (well, Obama may not but a normal American President would).

Their neighbors build walls to keep them fenced in too, those are their arab neighbors too.

Peace is attainable but all must want it and be willing to negotiate honestly and in good weill. That has yet to happen with the Palestinians.

I was about to say, the digging of tunnels is all ready happening and they build up a fence. lol. Oh Lord...

(Third attemp at posting this...I think I have an antisemitic computer.)

That is a big IF Cpl Jeff N. and one that would be nice to see; however I do not think it is probable.

This land has been fought over for centuries, Look at the map below to see what Israel has given up for peace...that still has not come about. Some say that Israel stole this land from the Palestinians’ to begin with, and they are just dead wrong. I challenge those people to read deeper into history. When the Israelites exited Egypt fleeing as slaves and wondering homeless for 40 years they took this land in battle from the Canaanites. King Solomon Built a temple known as Temple Mount around 950 BC. It was destroyed by the Assyrians (not the same as, but with historic ties to modern day Syria) around 586 BC, and rebuilt by the Israelites about 70 years later. At the center of this site is what the Jewish nation calls the Holiest of Holy's; it was believed that this is where God himself would dwell. Over the centuries the land ownership has went back and forth in Jewish and Muslim control. The Islamic belief is that this site is where Muhammad ascended to Heaven and they built the Dome of the Rock where the Holiest of Holy’s once stood. So there is a deep religious tie to this small piece of earth on both sides. I do not believe the Palestinians’ are interested in peace with Israel; in fact I believe the opposite is true, that they are heel bent on the destruction of Israel and to maintain Muslim control of the Dome of the Rock; which resides in Jerusalem. I know that I would not care for a nation that continually terrorizes the US to have property in Washington DC.

Israel’s “real” property as originally ordained by their God “The Promised Land” is significantly larger than the reality of today’s Israel. Imagine if Israel had that land that contained the entire Nile delta along many miles of the Nile crossing over Saudi Arabia to the Persian Gulf, taking most of Kuwait Up the Euphrates River to the top of the eastern coast of the Mediterranean taking half of Iraq and most of Syria. Lebanon and Jordan would be entirely in Israeli land. Could you imagine how that would change modern dynamics of Politics and war over the last 30 years?

I do and will always support Israel.

SGT Mick F. too true. Self determination will be a big step forward for them...

LCDR Jaron Matlow, but doesn't the issue of Abraham two sons also effects both. I understand that to many the fact that one son was from a slave and the other son was from his wife plays in the understanding of ownership of the land. The solution is a dialogue between both, other nations have more to gain by keeping half brothers apart then by seeing them working together.

CPT Pedro Meza I take it you are referring to Ishmael and Isaac. In the Torah, Abraham is promised that the land will be his offspring's through Isaac. Ishmael is exiled with his mother. Interestingly, after Abraham binds Isaac on the altar, Isaac goes and lives with Hagar and Ishmael.

The fact that all three religions are offspring from Abraham:
Jacob: Jews
Esau: Christians
Ishmael: Muslims

does not impact the ownership of the land. If you want to cite ownership from the Torah, then Abraham's buying the cave at Machpelah does that. But, the Torah says that it will be through Isaac and Jacob's offspring that the land will be possessed.

What happens later, is that the New Testament claims that Esau is the true Israel, even though Jacob's name is very clearly changed to Israel. The Quran claims that the transmission is through Ishmael.

Keep in mind that the Torah was from about 3000 years ago, with the Hebrew Bible canon in the 2nd Century BCE (BC). The NT is from about the 3rd century CE (AD) and the Qur'an from the 7th Century. The Torah was the first one, and it is the original claim - if that's where you are going with this...

From the Torah, my understanding is that God'd promise is based on childbirth, and that interpenetration by ancient Hebrews favored Hebrews based on what they believed God said. I look at all, but will state that the Christian bible was first the Catholic bible as decided in the 300 year time frame, followed by the Christian bible in the 1500 year time frame. All this come down to understanding God's message which to me means use your freewill to compromise and stop using God to justify fighting or continue as it is and not have peace. I like the dialogue so please continue, and I will explain to you my experiences.

Well at least they wouldn't be able to make one for 10 years even if they have the capability says the political officials. Gosh, this would be a horrible "I told you so" moment. Just insane.

I call it the "land of the not quite right" for a reason.

SGT Jerry Wilson I would not quite say "thousands of years..." Judaism has been around for 2500+ years. Christianity is younger, at 1700+ years (counting from Constantine, as Christianity wasn't a big religion until his treaty with the Christians).

Islam is the youngster at 1400 years. Their claim to Jerusalem, btw, is not even in the Qur'an. Rather it is a "Hadith", sort of like a legend, that Mohammed went to Heaven on his horse from the Temple Mount.

As far as I'm concerned (keep in mind my bias as a Zionistic rabbi) Jerusalem belongs to Israel and the Jews. It was because we were attacked and largely displaced that the Church and Islam got toeholds in Jerusalem, and modern Christianity has never tried to take Israel away from Jews, the way Islam has for 1400 years...

Catholicism was established by Constantine, which is safe to say that Christianity as we know it today was established by Martin Luther time period 1500, but of course Martin Luther hated the Jews.
By the same token that there has been wars there for hundreds of years or three thousand years fear of nukes should not be used, because biological warfare is easier and more dangerous; think Ebola.

It is possible that down the road there will dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians which it either dialogue of war.