Posted on Dec 16, 2013
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When did the Army stop promoting people based on their knowledge of their field, and competence as a leader and teacher- and instead base career move decisions on who can afford a stable high speed home internet connection and has enough free time to deal with doing stupid online classes?
Sitting in front of a computer screen long enough to pass SSD by virtue of running out of wrong answers shouldn't be an apt measurement of your ability to perform as an NCO....
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SGM Matthew Quick
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The Army stopped promoting Soldiers based on their knowledge of the job in the early 90s (SQT).

Are you not afforded time in the duty day and use of government computers to complete SOME of your SSD?
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SPC Infantryman
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but as for chain if command making accommodations, my company level chain is going out of their way to be as helpful as possible. but even they have told us that the deadline to have SSD done by December 31st was battalions call, and they're refusing to budge. anyone who can't finish it this month is removed from the promotion list until the next cycle.
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SGT Javier Silva
SGT Javier Silva
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SPC O'Donnell,

I cannot and will not accept you excuse of being in the NG and living 2+ hours away from the unit.  My reserve unit is 2.5 - 3 hours from where I live.  If I have to, I drive myself over to a public library, which is roughly 10-15 minutes away and see if I can use their computers.  If cannot, I drive an additional 15-20 minutes and see if the university will allow me to use their computers in their library (Go Longhorns!...sorry).  There are other avenues of approach that would help you in completing your SSD.  I know have to finish SSD3 per the guidance of our CSM.  Do you live in Cambridge, MA?
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SPC Infantryman
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SGT Silva, I live absolutely nowhere near Cambridge Mass, nor is my unit armory located near it. As for my local library, the 15 minute allotments for computer reservations is just about long enough to install CAC software- and log on, before time is up... and next time you come back, the sleep program removes all installed software so you have to start over again (I actually have tried this option). The kind librarian tells me the computers are for looking up books only, that it's a library, not a computer lab. and the bigger issue about going to the armory to do it isn't the distance- I would drive 2 hours each way no problem to knock it out in one day- if I could afford to take a day off of work and still pay my rent... see, even with my over prices college degree (turns out tuition and fees are only like 10%of the actual cost if college, yay guard tuition and fee waiver!!) and my relentless hours plugging away with job applications- the economy appears to be in a state where the only existing jobs are minimum wage retail, and a consulting gig I set up myself, that unfortunately will only start paying once there's another natural disaster to convince people they actually need to care about emergency management... alas- student loans, rent, electricity, heat, phone, car insurance, medical insurance, gas... the risk cost of these things each month exceeds my monthly income from working almost 70 hours a week.... so plain and simple- I can't afford the time to care about SSD 1. I might be in a more stable position, if the Army didn't decide to put me on ADOS orders at a location 70 miles from my house for three months, and deny me BAH, because they kept just extending the orders one week at a time, and told be I was not eligible for BAH, Milage, or housing.... it cost me more in gas to get to my duty station and home than I made... so quite frankly, no, I can't afford to make taking an online class for the Army a priority- I'm too busy trying to keep a roof over my head.
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SFC Military Police
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You know you hit the nail right on the head when you said " the Army stopped promoting Soldiers based on their knowledge of the job in the early 90's (SQT)." 
So what criteria are we using today to promote?  Is knowledge of job no longer important? 
It's sad that people are placed on pedestals for their ability to do PT, or answer board questions that they memorized. They receive inflated evaluations because they are being groomed. I personally know of a SFC who couldn't do the job as a PSG but rather than give him the evaluation he deserved he received credit for the position and was moved into an operations position which made him competitive with his peers despite being incompetent. 
The failings of the Army are our fault.
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SSD 1 doesn't require a high speed connection. I started SSD 1 in 2011 while I was still in AIT. I invested $20 on a CAC reader and did it a few hours at a time from my own computer.

The course is useful and contains a lot of good information. Also, for those who procrastinated until the 11th hour, I'd say it is a good measurement of their ability to perform as an NCO.
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SSG Dan McIntosh
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SPC Thundercloud, did I understand your comment corretly, in that your leadership is NOT sending you to a promotion board because you are not Air Assault qualified?
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1SG Michael Blount
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Just wait until you hit SSD5. That's a hum-dinger
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SGT 94 E Radio Comsec Repairer
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Yes, SSG McIntosh, but it's not just me. It's a battalion-level requirement. The Division's goal is for 70% of all soldiers to be AA qualified, so if you don't have the wings you can't be a leader here. I don't disagree with the policy... I just need to move to another post so I can advance. I spent the last 4 months in AA PT and still can't beat the obstacle course.
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SSG Section Team Chief
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SSG McIntosh it's not a surprise to me because when I PCS to Fort Campbell that's the first thing they told me, that I'm going to AASLT school. I didn't know what it was until I got there. Becoming AASLT qualified seems to make you better than your peers. Even everyone that had out ranked me have to stand to my left because they wasn't AASLT qualified
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Just because SSD1/3/4 have become requirements for promotion (and in my unit, SSD1 for board attendance) does not mean the system has been degraded in any way. SSD1 can be completed in roughly 7/8 hours, so 'not having time' is not an excuse. I think with the way the Army is moving towards being so reliant on Distance Learning courses, it is understandable.

Now, I completely understand what you're saying about 'running out of wrong answers', and yeah, 90% of soldiers cheat their way through SSD anyway - but I can definitely tell the difference between a PFC who's done SSD1 and one who hasn't. A lower enlisted soldier who takes his personal time and puts it towards professional development shows me a will to learn and a desire to be promoted.

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