Posted on Dec 3, 2016
SP5 Mark Kuzinski
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The United States Marine Corps: 241 years of butt-kicking and tradition!
Russian Naval Infantry: A Russian military force with 311 years of victory — and defeat!

Which is the deadlier unit in a matchup of the U.S. versus Russia when it comes to naval infantry? Comments please.
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Capt Tom Brown
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Edited 8 y ago
USMC without a doubt. (not the best forum to ask this question if you want an objective answer)
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SSgt Terry P.
SSgt Terry P.
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Capt Tom Brown Unless it has changed ,since i was in the Marines--"Losing is not an Option".
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Capt Tom Brown
Very true, no bias here! LOL!
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Sgt William Collins
Sgt William Collins
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I agree with Captain Brown, this is not the best forum for an objective answer. Trying to be objective, however, U. S. Marine Corps training and equipment are likely far superior to the Russian equivalent and we've had far more practical war-fighting experience since WWII. I also tend to think that although the Russians love their Rodina, Americans would be far more willing to fight and die for their freedom.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski I can tell you I'd put my money on the United States Marines - Ooh Rah!
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Cpl Vic Eizenga
Cpl Vic Eizenga
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Sgt Don Whiteley - the Marines also have cold weather training and mountain warfare. I did in1964 18 degrees in Bridgeport CA happy thanks giving.
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LCpl Cy Hotchkiss
LCpl Cy Hotchkiss
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Did cold weather in 84 also spent a few days outside near the great lakes then went to Norway as part of a NATO thing Team Work 84 so still going to have to put my money on the BIG GREEN Machine
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Sgt Don Whiteley
Sgt Don Whiteley
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The Corps provides cold weather training and exercises, but the numbers participating in this training are too small to be effective in more than probably limited, special operations. It's also questionable how our equipment, clothing, food, and logistical support have been tested for extended for severe cold weather operations as we might experience in Russia. The Russian Naval Infantry is based at Vladivostok (Pacific), Pechenga (North Sea), and Baltiysk (Black Sea). The average winter temperature in Vladivostok is 14-19 degrees and they have to use ice breakers to keep the port open. Pechenga is colder still. With the Marine's main bases at Camps Pendleton and Lejeune, it places the Marines at a disadvantage in preparation, training, and extensive exposure to cold weather operations. While the Russians live in and are acclimated to the cold weather climates they fight in, the Marines would have to adapt. The Corps' leaders must look at history. The Germans kicked some serious butt moving up to the Leningrad/Moscow/Stalingrad line during WWII, but were woefully unprepared for the Russian winter in the way of equipment, arms, logistics, clothing, and training. That failure caused the loss of 2.1 million soldiers killed or captured, and 3.4 million wounded because they were severely unprepared for a winter war. We don't want to be in the same state of unpreparedness.
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Cpl Vic Eizenga
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Cpl Vic Eizenga - I was informed by my Co it was -40 Thanksgiving night explains why I could not get the pork out of the C rat can
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SMSgt Ops Superintendant
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US Marines have been engaged in constant combat for almost 16 yrs now. Annexing Crimea is not comparable.
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SMSgt Ops Superintendant
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China? Really. Come on man. Chechnya isn't remotely comparable to the last 15+ yrs. seems like the media has you fooled as well as "our public just can't stomach casualties." I beg to differ. Your comment on our enlisted promotion system lacks serious clarity. Spit and polish? Maybe in a very few cases but I appreciate you cheapening the abilities of our SNCO corps. But hey, what do I know. I've only spent the last 15 yrs smoking dudes and dropping bombs. I surely hope the fact you have Pvt as the precursor to your name is representative of your former lofty career goals. This isn't intended to offend but if it is, you'll have to excuse me. I'm just a dumb SNCO who rose through the ranks by polishing my boots.
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SMSgt Ops Superintendant
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Yeahhhhh.... I'm just not gonna read your novels on diarrhea. You obviously need some help.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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SMSgt (Join to see) - As an observer of your discussion, I noted a few things. Lots of grammar issues in his posts makes me question if he was an officer. Too many of his boasts sound like movie clips.
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SMSgt Ops Superintendant
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Plenty of time to work on a patent when you are a wealthy homeless person.
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