Posted on Apr 17, 2016
What do you do when the Military had incorrect or no record of your service? I have been asked this multiple times.
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SPC Melonnie Covington-Pryor Submit DD Form 149, Application for Correction of Military Records to the relevant service branch.
The secretary of a military department, acting through a board for correction of military records, has authority to change any military record when necessary to correct an error or remove an injustice. A correction board may consider applications for correction of a military record, including a review of a discharge issued by courts martial.
The veteran, survivor or legal representative generally must file a request for correction within three years after discovery of an alleged error or injustice. The board may excuse failure to file within the prescribed time, however, if it finds it would be in the interest of justice to do so. It is an applicant’s responsibility to show why the filing of the application was delayed and why it would be in the interest of justice for the board to consider it despite the delay.
To justify any correction, it is necessary to show to the satisfaction of the board that the alleged entry or omission in the records was in error or unjust. Applications should include all available evidence, such as signed statements of witnesses or a brief of arguments supporting the requested correction. Application is made with DD Form 149, available at VA offices, from veterans organizations or from the Internet (http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/infomgt/forms/formsprogram.htm).
The secretary of a military department, acting through a board for correction of military records, has authority to change any military record when necessary to correct an error or remove an injustice. A correction board may consider applications for correction of a military record, including a review of a discharge issued by courts martial.
The veteran, survivor or legal representative generally must file a request for correction within three years after discovery of an alleged error or injustice. The board may excuse failure to file within the prescribed time, however, if it finds it would be in the interest of justice to do so. It is an applicant’s responsibility to show why the filing of the application was delayed and why it would be in the interest of justice for the board to consider it despite the delay.
To justify any correction, it is necessary to show to the satisfaction of the board that the alleged entry or omission in the records was in error or unjust. Applications should include all available evidence, such as signed statements of witnesses or a brief of arguments supporting the requested correction. Application is made with DD Form 149, available at VA offices, from veterans organizations or from the Internet (http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/infomgt/forms/formsprogram.htm).
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SFC Ethan Graves
Make copies of your paperwork submitted. You may have to submit again. Make sure to follow up. Good luck.
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The best advice I got came from my 1SG. He advised all soldiers to start an "I love me book". It is contain copy's of every set of orders, award school, etc. when I ETSd I went step farther and painstakingly made copy's of my medical records. To this day I still get copy's of the reports from the VA. Let's face it the government is great at loosing shit.
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SPC Enrique Estrella
i have my dd214 when i got out half of my records were missing, i went back to the base and they gave me the same records with half missing i put paper work to send to the records holding facility in i think it was st luis sorry dont remember the exact state it was in but even they only had half of my record the whole half can not be found even had a vet rep help me and i received the same records again with missing about half. after trying for 2 years i gave up. have no clue what else to do was pretty much told im out of luck.(please forgive the rambling)
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I would make sure you stay on top of this and get this corrected ASAP. While I was in I had a noncombat related injury which wasn't problem then. Years later and 3 surgeries later with another on the way the VA is telling me they can't locate my medical records to file for a disability claim which they are forcing me to do In order to continue to receive medical care thru the VA. I've learned you have to take charge of the situation and attack the situation as you would in the battlefield.
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SFC Nyla Newville
Now day local hospitals and clinic don't keep records for very long if you don't get copy's at the time they could be lost forever.
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MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
I basically had the same problem only mine was worse. My records burned up in the St Louis fire. I wrote down everything I could and had it noteried. That was all I could do. Thank goodness I did have proff of combat time. My body went to hell afterward so, what happened in the Military was moot. Let THEM prove you wrong. Today you can put your records on disks. I advise all new troops to keep a record of ANYTHING the military does or tells you on paper. Heck, I might even tape some converstions. Take pictures. Even on the outside, somebody is taking a video of something--just ask the police.
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SGT Timothy Rocheleau
A little known VA rule is that if they can't prove it wasn't service connected the findings are automatically in the veterans favor. Took a ten year appeal for me to learn this fact.
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It's really too broad to get definitive. Is something missing from the record or is the DD-214 wrong? Depending on what it is, the local MIL HR office can fix some things while others require a Board of Correction. The HR office will have the correct process on hand.
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SPC Melonnie Covington-Pryor
One persons record is completely wrong they were active duty for 6 years and it has them NG for 60 days
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MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
Maj Werner Saemmler-Hindrichs - Nobody reviewed mine. My neighbor told me this. he personally knew this SGT. The guy lost most of his platoon and was severely wounded. After discharge he bought a bowling alley which he ran for several years. One day the MP's showed up and arrested him for desertion. Naturally, they said, Tell it to the judge, we are just following orders. Well, he hired a good lawyer and sued for 5 mil and got it!! He bought a ranch in South Texas---which just happened to be over the Eagle Ford Shale-- and they discovered oil.. GOD IS GOOD.
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SFC Arthur Tucker
No one went over my last DD-214 with me since I had a lot of leave time saved and I sold all that was allowed and took the rest so I was not there for my retirement. They mailed it to me and it did have the wrong MOS but it was close and would not make any difference in my retirement so I never bothered to do anything about it. My primary MOS was 11F4SLA and they put 11B4S on my DD-214. Now that SF has been made a branch the new MOS is 18Z.
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Another idea to solving this question is: Contact DFAS and see if they can pull up all of his financial records. It may be a hassle to do that. But DFAS will maintain copies of what they've paid out.
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MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
Unfortunately, they will not contain Medical data. Good place to see if they owe you any money or back pay. Never thought of that!!
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Archives.gov has military records for all perosonnel retired and enlisted. Or you can comtact the human resources service center at : [login to see]
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It's all about paper work your, contract and make your self a I LOVE ME BOOK, and never throw any paper work away.
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SPC Melonnie Covington-Pryor
Yeah I have all my stuff and I also call it my love me book. However some have ex wives that threw all that away. That's who I am trying to help
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SPC Melonnie Covington-Pryor - Every Company he has ever been to should have copies and that is a long shot
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I am dealing with that right now. My picture shows me at Bagram airfield . . I was clearly in Afghanistan in 2004 . . . but my DD214 fails to reflect this. Fortunately, I had saved all my orders and travel vouchers and have been able to prove to Uncle Sam that I WAS there, and deserve an amendment to my 214. If you had service after everything went computer you should be better off, because there should be a record there. I was there during the Paper only era, and only because I was paranoid at the time was I able to prove my service.
I am a bit loathe to say this has been resolved, because it has not yet . . but my threat to go to my Congressman and launch a Congressional inquiry has had a remarkable effect. If you can produce ANY proof of your service you should be able to get an amended 214. If not, then take your proof to your congressman.
I am a bit loathe to say this has been resolved, because it has not yet . . but my threat to go to my Congressman and launch a Congressional inquiry has had a remarkable effect. If you can produce ANY proof of your service you should be able to get an amended 214. If not, then take your proof to your congressman.
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The Army Board for Correction of Military Records
Mission Statement
The Army Board for Correction of Military Records (ABCMR) is the highest level of administrative review within the Department of the Army with the mission to correct errors in or remove injustices from Army military records.
Overview
When applications are received requesting that an error be corrected or an injustice be removed from the record, multiple actions are taken.
The Soldier’s or Veteran’s records are obtained. If no records are available, it may not be possible to process the application further. In 1973, there was a fire in the National Archives’ National Personnel Records Center that destroyed many Veterans’ records from World War II. Other government agencies may also have records checked out if the applicant has multiple actions in progress. For this reason, applicants should provide with their application copies of as many military record documents that they have that are relevant to the application issue.
When necessary, advisory opinions are obtained from other Army staff elements. If an advisory opinion is obtained, it will be referred to the applicant for comment before the application is further considered.
In some cases, administrative corrections can be made based on the records and advisory opinions without the need for a Board decision.
If the application cannot be resolve administratively, the Board staff will prepare a brief for the Board’s consideration. The Board will render a decision which is final and binding on all Army officials and government organizations. When directed, corrections will be made to the record and related corrective actions will be taken by the responsible Army or government organization. Applicants may request reconsideration of a Board decision within one year of a decision if they can provide new relevant evidence that was not considered by the Board.
Mission Statement
The Army Board for Correction of Military Records (ABCMR) is the highest level of administrative review within the Department of the Army with the mission to correct errors in or remove injustices from Army military records.
Overview
When applications are received requesting that an error be corrected or an injustice be removed from the record, multiple actions are taken.
The Soldier’s or Veteran’s records are obtained. If no records are available, it may not be possible to process the application further. In 1973, there was a fire in the National Archives’ National Personnel Records Center that destroyed many Veterans’ records from World War II. Other government agencies may also have records checked out if the applicant has multiple actions in progress. For this reason, applicants should provide with their application copies of as many military record documents that they have that are relevant to the application issue.
When necessary, advisory opinions are obtained from other Army staff elements. If an advisory opinion is obtained, it will be referred to the applicant for comment before the application is further considered.
In some cases, administrative corrections can be made based on the records and advisory opinions without the need for a Board decision.
If the application cannot be resolve administratively, the Board staff will prepare a brief for the Board’s consideration. The Board will render a decision which is final and binding on all Army officials and government organizations. When directed, corrections will be made to the record and related corrective actions will be taken by the responsible Army or government organization. Applicants may request reconsideration of a Board decision within one year of a decision if they can provide new relevant evidence that was not considered by the Board.
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MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
I retired in 1972 and my records went with it. Made Korea but not WW11. LOL Great advice.
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I would suggest getting in touch with a Live person from the National Archives. There are two huge warehouses where physical copies of records are stored. All these records are going to be scanned into digital format; a VERY long and tedious process. If any place should have copy of them, this place should. However, the states are zoned according to sections. The soldier should have kept up with triple copies of everything the military every gave him/her. With at least 22 million veterans things tend to get lost. As for corrections, I'm not sure. Either way, it will take some time to get things done.
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SFC Richard Browne
There also are morning reports, logs and other unit level documents that are supposed to be kept in the archives ... finding them is another matter.
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One thing I learned growing up as an Army brat and stood me in good stead when I did my own time was you keep copies of EVERY order and official document ever issued; and you NEVER give away your last copy.
I've been out almost thirty years and still have the first LES I received at Ft Leonard Wood in 1975. My wife asks me why I still keep all this stuff and I tell her you never know when there might be another "fire" at the records office (cant remember what it was called) like in 1974 that destroyed my brother's records - he spent twenty years proving his case with VA because he lost a lot of his stuff in a nasty divorce.
My 201 file during my first hitch had the wrong name and SSN on it. For my first three years every order I received had to be amended. I thought I finally got it straight when I ETSed. About three years later when I re-entered Active duty they couldn't find my records even under the wrong data. No telling WHAT they had changed my SSN to. With COPIES of my orders and my original DD214 (which had to be corrected at the STP at Ft Dix in 78) I was able to rebuild my 201 file correctly.
I know this is long but hopefully the details will help someone avoid the same pitfalls.
I've been out almost thirty years and still have the first LES I received at Ft Leonard Wood in 1975. My wife asks me why I still keep all this stuff and I tell her you never know when there might be another "fire" at the records office (cant remember what it was called) like in 1974 that destroyed my brother's records - he spent twenty years proving his case with VA because he lost a lot of his stuff in a nasty divorce.
My 201 file during my first hitch had the wrong name and SSN on it. For my first three years every order I received had to be amended. I thought I finally got it straight when I ETSed. About three years later when I re-entered Active duty they couldn't find my records even under the wrong data. No telling WHAT they had changed my SSN to. With COPIES of my orders and my original DD214 (which had to be corrected at the STP at Ft Dix in 78) I was able to rebuild my 201 file correctly.
I know this is long but hopefully the details will help someone avoid the same pitfalls.
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Capt Richard Willett
Absolutely - keep everything. I still have my parents ok form to allow me to enlist as a 17 year old in the summer of 1958. Have not had to use it but you never know.
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