Posted on Jun 16, 2015
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A Federal Judge has ruled that Iknoor Singh's adherence to his Sikh faith - wearing facial hair, keeping his hair long, but wrapped in a turban, and carrying a sharp knife on his person - would not diminish his capacity to serve the nation he loves, the United States of America, as a future Officer in the United States Army. Do you feel too many allowances are being made for his faith or do you feel he should be welcomed into the ranks if he can successfully fulfill the requirements for Commissioning? What say you, RP?
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MINEOLA, NY — A Sikh college student from New York said Monday he is excited about a federal court decision that will permit him to enroll in the U.S. Army's Reserve Officer Training Corps without shaving his beard, cutting his hair, or removing his turban.

U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson issued the ruling Friday in Washington, D.C., saying 20-year-old Iknoor Singh's adherence to his religious beliefs would not diminish his ability to serve in the military.

"I didn't believe it at first when I heard about the decision," said Singh, who lives in the New York City borough of Queens.

He told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Monday: "It was kind of surreal. This is something I have been fighting for for two or three years. I'm excited and nervous; very excited to learn."

Singh, who will be a junior next fall studying finance and business analytics at Hofstra University on Long Island, said he has had a lifelong interest in public service. He speaks four languages — English, Punjabi, Hindi, and Urdu — and he said he wants to work in military intelligence.

"Becoming an officer is not an easy thing," he conceded. "You have to be proficient in many areas."

Sikhism, a 500-year-old religion founded in India, requires its male followers to wear a turban and beard and keep their hair uncut.

Under a policy announced last year, troops can seek waivers on a case-by-case basis to wear religious clothing, seek prayer time or engage in religious practices. Approval depends on where the service member is stationed and whether the change would affect military readiness or the mission.

Currently, only a few Sikhs serve in the U.S. Army who have been granted religious accommodations.

In her ruling, Jackson said, "It is difficult to see how accommodating plaintiff's religious exercise would do greater damage to the Army's compelling interests in uniformity, discipline, credibility, unit cohesion, and training than the tens of thousands of medical shaving profiles the Army has already granted."

Army spokesman, Lt. Col. Ben Garrett, said in a statement the decision is currently being examined. "The Army takes pride in sustaining a culture where all personnel are treated with dignity and respect and not discriminated against based on race, color, religion, gender and national origin," he said.

Hofstra spokeswoman Karla Schuster said in a statement that the university "supports Mr. Singh's desire to serve his country, as well as his right to religious expression and practice. We are pleased that the courts have affirmed that he can do both as a member of the ROTC."

Gurjot Kaur, senior staff attorney for the Sikh Coalition, said the decision was "an important victory in the fight for religious freedom. We urge the Pentagon to eliminate the discriminatory loopholes in its policies and give all Americans an equal opportunity to serve in our nation's armed forces."

The American Civil Liberties Union and a group called United Sikhs jointly represented Singh in the case.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/sikh-student-queens-clear-join-army-rotc-article-1.2259423
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SSG Brian Hart
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Granting this exception is nothing new. I had a Sikh MI Bn cdr, turban, full beard. I just want to see the Cadet enjoy the gas chamber.
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SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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Yeah, that would be NO BUENO SSG Brian Hart
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SSG Jeremy Siebenaller
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SGM Dawson, Unfortunitly...this is just how its gonna be for now on. Women are going through Ranger course (not that I have a problem with that) However the women that were going through it failed out, so the Army is considering lowering the standards...ekkkk
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SFC Mark Merino
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NOOOOOO!!!!!!! Just find stronger women.
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SGT James Murphy
SGT James Murphy
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Look The Bar is set where the Bar is Set. Leave it the Hell Alone!
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PO3 Bob Walsh
PO3 Bob Walsh
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Wake me up when they call for the, over 70yrs.old, volunteers.
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LTC Deputy Division Chief
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Interesting comments and points. I find it more interesting that the outside courts ruled it instead of understanding the good order and discipline the military adheres too. I feel in the end this individual did it to push an agenda that doesn't need to be. I respect his religious convictions because I have my own. I am disappointed that we have to run by ideology of the social norms.
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Well, there is also the fact that this ROTC detachment is clearly at odds with what the active duty Army has already decreed.
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MSG Brad Sand
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But I could have answered 'Really? We're debating trans-gendered troops, and we're delaying action on a Sikh?' as well.' Of course, we might want to also remember the Sikhs past India before we hire them for the Secret Service too?
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SPC Christian Ziegler
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How many times does the Army have to endure the PC bull crap. This guy cant meet the standards so he should not be allowed in the Army now it say's he is in ROTC nothing say's yet he is in the Army. Lets hope they tell him to take a leap off a cliff. Scout's Out
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SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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Easy! It's just his opinion. Not one that I agree with at all... but, you know what I am saying. :-)
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SPC Christian Ziegler
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Sgt Richard Buckner by no means did I really mean for him to jump off a cliff. I meant that they should not let him in, and my comment is my opinion. I never called him a name or degraded him in anyway. The term "go jump of a cliff" means for people to go away. So what part of my comment was out of line and stupid.

As for the rest of you 3 gentlemen that wrote comments wow just wow. I guess when someone say's "go play in the highway" you take that literal too right. Scout's Out
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Maj Mike Sciales
Maj Mike Sciales
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Pretty short sighted scout. I missed something here -- do you speak 4 languages currently in demand by our forces? Can you survive and operate inside an enemy stronghold? Can you collect real time hummint? No because you are a scout and that requires certain skill sets. Hummint requires other certain skills which you can never hope to obtain, so while we all appreciate the sincerity of your comments and support your strongly held beliefs, it'd be much better if you concentrated on finding out how to utilize the treasure trove of intel a fellow like him can bring to the table. I'd take a thousand more like him in a minute.
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Cpl Jeff N.
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If he loves this country as much as he says then he should put himself second and his country first and align with one of the organizations that help ensure he has a country to love.

Pretty soon (perhaps we are already there) anything will go. Why wear uniforms, why have standards. Wear whatever you "feel" you identify with. I have no issue with his religion or him practicing it but when he must have a special accommodation which no one else gets, then we've gone too far. How many Sikh converts do you think we will have in the next year or two?
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Cpl Jeff N.
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SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA . You did that the moment you signed the enlistment contract. You have the UCMJ, uniforms you must wear, they can send you where you don't want to go and the list goes on and on and on. In order for the military to work, they have to have more sway over you than the average civilian or it would never work. You should know that, you are an NCO in the Army.

No one is suggesting he must give up practicing his religion only that he conform to the standard uniform regulations EVERYONE else must. When the Wiccan want to wear their funny shoes with the rolled up pointy toes are we going to have to let them too?
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SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
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Well, I am an NCO in the US Army and I am as of yet to surrender any right afforded to me by the US Constitution. In fact, no one has ever asked me to do so, even with enlistment contracts signed.

To the Sikh citizens OTOH, the imposition of what basically amounts to "reject your religion to join the US Army" is basically a surrender of their rights.
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Cpl Jeff N.
Cpl Jeff N.
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SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA . Then you should try a few things to see what rights you actually have or have not given up while serving

1. Challenge a lawful order you disagree with to a senior leader and refuse to do it as a matter of free conscience. Disagree vehemently under freedom of speech.

2, Show up to formation in civilian attire everyday under the freedom of expression.

3. Miss a movement/deployment because you don't want to go under a freedom of movement

Again, no one is asking him to reject his religion, only to conform to the same standards every other soldier of every other religion must. He wants preferential treatment, a special exception for him.
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SGT Allison Churchill
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1&2) The first amendment doesn't apply to either of these examples. "Freedom of expression" isn't specifically in the Constitution--it's generally considered part of freedom of speech, which again, doesn't apply to either of these examples.
2) Freedom of movement isn't the right to move whenever you want. It's applied in cases of state taxation, benefits, general right to travel throughout the states and world. You have the right to attend school in a different state and still receive financial aid in your home state. You have the right to travel by air.

Nothing that is great can stay the same forever--adaptation is necessary. Our military has changed a lot since its inception, and will continue to do so.
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MSgt Keith Hebert
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To far
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TSgt Jeffrey Jamieson
TSgt Jeffrey Jamieson
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You mean "too" far. He is not going "to" anywhere. This is why the AF SNCO's have such a bad rap...geez, simple grammar mistakes.
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MSgt Keith Hebert
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Lol retired I am
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
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Recognizing the privileges of rank and position, what applies to one should apply to all.
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Yep...that's why these guys should be booted as well, right?
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
CDR Michael Goldschmidt
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LOL, Lt Col (Join to see). You don't think mission is positional? You don't think that all SF guys, depending on how they are employed shouldn't be subject to the same rules. "Nope, you can't grow a beard on this SF mission, but you can?" I certainly hope you were kidding, Jason. Otherwise, I'm deeply concerned. Furthermore, I have always been an advocate of doing what makes sense. Presumably, that's why the Navy was willing to make me a Senior officer, and, also, why it took them so long to do it...LOL.
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SCPO Investigator
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Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims that you find in Southwest Asia. These are the really good guys and allowances should be made for them. Sikhism is one of the largest religions in the world, and is truly a peaceful one if there ever was.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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I don't know how religious symbols are being removed but this guy wants to be the fish that swims against the school of fish.
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