Should Soldiers wear the Class B/Tropical uniform for daily duties?

But they missed out of love SSG Robert Burns However, please refrain from standing near me until we have ALL the facts though.

Dangit, SSG Robert Burns! You're tempting me to violate one of my fundamental rules: Don't stand next to or share a foxhole with somebody who keeps getting shot at.

Maybe if you sit in an office all day, sure why not.

It would definitely give a nod to the past routines of the Army. I think it might raise discipline. All for it.

At what level of HQs?

I would include school houses (unless training dictates otherwise); recruiting stations; hospitals (clerical staff);

It all comes down to the job...and...how much of a public image units want to maintain.
Back in the mid 70's I was with American Forces Network Europe and don't recall wearing 'fatigues' except for once-a-year visits to the range. It was A's or B's every day unless you were in engineering.

Working for AFN in Europe, not to shabby

understand that the ACU's are a ugly uniform,maybe go back to the old fatigues we wore and we tucked our shirts in,had made you work on height and weight standards better,and also you do not know when the balloon is gonna go up and poof your on alert,back in the day we had keep LBE gear with us ,I was in medical and hated whites and anything to do with class A or b in a medical setting,iruined more dress uniforms than i did fatigues and BDU's,I am for a better appearances in uniform.

I was a military dependent, and now work in the Civilian Govt Sector. Our Uniformed Staff must wear a Dress Uniform (Class B) when in view of the public. They can wear the ACUs (Utility) when working other assignments. The Class B uniform to me is what I would expect to see for public interaction.

SGT (Join to see) - have you actually been in a line unit like say an infantry battalion? there is no way it would work. we train or have details that require ACUs every single day. the SGM is correct in saying it has no functionality and isnt practical in line units

With all respect to your rank,you don't know nothing about what your talking about.One thing is values,commitment and professionalism and another is image,more especific public image.
Armies in the world know about this and always ensure that their components look as good and sharp possible and not the other way around.Just take a look on how soldiers use to look during the 40's,50's,60's and 70's and compared that to how they look now during the last 20 or 30 years.
Soldiers in today's Army almost allways look like cram and most probably you are one of them.

SGT Davis this comment is futile because you are mixing one thing with another.We aren't talking about using the dress uniforms for field or heavy duty jobs.We are talking about using the right uniform for the right work or activity.Of course,if you are an infantryman or perform any other combat specialty you are not going to dress that way.We are talking about: LIGHT DUTIES,
CEREMONIES,GRADUATIONS,
PROMOTIONS,PARADES,
GHANGE OF COMMANDS CEREMONIES,OFFICE WORK,TRAVELLING ON ORDERS,CLASSROOM TRAINING,etc.
Can you view and understand the concept or not?
This is very simple,not much brain is needed for something so basic.
Combat,field training,heavy duty of any kind,the ACU or Class C uniform is the chosen one.The rest of all military activity a dress or Class B or A uniform should be the assigned clothing.

SSG Walter Corretjer appreciate your opinion, but try to be more professional in your responses especially if you want to be taken seriously!

I agree Sir.  I know certain BCT sites still graduate in ASUs. FT. Jackson seems to do things differently than any of the other BCT sites for some reason.

great answer sir

CW2 (Join to see), can you tell me how much a matched set of Class B ASUs cost, compared to the cost for a set of ACUs (or whatever the new camouflage combat uniform is called? According to an Army FAQ on the new Army Service Uniform, they were estimating that a complete issue (2 shirts, 2 pairs of trousers, and 1 coat) would cost between $200 and $250 per soldier. If combat uniforms cost anywhere near the $120 I remember seeing somewhere as the cost for a jacket and pair of pant, that would make the uniform cost pretty close to a wash, wouldn't it?

Chief,the DOD has enough money for this and much more.They waste millions and millions in a bunch of other improductive things,as well as in courses and trainings with no use,and nobody cares.In this case,my long war is toward today's soldier image,how much it has been affected,and how we can improve the overall projection to increase the extreme defficit in the percentage of recruitment that the system has been confronting to this day.

We are from different era's and different Army's. In my Army NCO's don't or didn't make mistakes such as this , those were reserved for junior soldiers. We NCO's lived by a creed that "No one is more professional than I" had a sense of meaning that we ran our lives by. We knew that soldiers were going to emulate everything we did because we were supposed to always be doing the right thing. We believed that the maximum effective range of an excuse was zero. If we were ever jacked up and it was very rare, if someone called us out we said " roger" fixed ourselves and moved out.
Computers, cell phones and social media didn't even exist and we didn't wear our hearts on our sleeves.

SFC (Join to see) - "No one is more professional than I" hahaha probably the most hypocritical statement in the entire army. in the 8years I served I met more NCO's that acted like spoiled brats and threw temper tantrums over the smallest of things then did the exact thing they had their tantrum about a couple days later, obviously demonstrated favoritism, told soldiers they had to make a choice between their families and the army threatened article 15's over their car not passing inspection in Germany or have a double standard where a soldier wouldn't be allowed to take care of personal issues such as taking their car to get it fixed but then that same NCO would go out and work on his car right in front of the company building. oh or the female 1st sgt that I met at FT Hood that was dancing at a strip club. all of whom were "old school NCO's" "No one is more professional than I" what a damn joke.

You better read what I just wrote a little bit before on this issue.
I believe you are totally out of side on what we have been pointing out in regard to this issue.One thing is one thing and another is another.
Readiness for combat is an important and fundamental aspect of the military life,as well as the image and look that a soldier feels and projects.
If you don't like to dress the best way possible by using the Class A and B uniforms,leave the service to the rest of us that know much more than you do.

PFC Kuehner, you must remember that the traditional garrison cap looks really bad on Army uniforms.

yeah that old upside down boat hull cap was pretty stupid looking but lets go with that right.

SGT (Join to see) - Didn't look bad on the gourds of the thousands of airborne troopers who wore it with dash and elan til they got their own maroon beanie.

Marines are wearing beanies now.

ever tried to work on a helicopter or inventory a connex in dress uniform? don't think that would be a good idea just because you're in garrison.

Not always true. Some folks look great in uniform of the day but then act like they aint got any brains in their head.

CPT Barden,

You can be disrespectful towards a senior NCO as well as a LT. But that is just personal not professional I guess. I guess I was taught to treat people how I want to be treated. I don't agree either that just because a Lieutenant is new to the Army should be given crap either. I agree the uniform looks like crap, but it is what the Army decided. I hope you guys worked it out.

The uniforms get mistaken for other things no matter what. Once, when I was wearing the old green Class-B, I went to get new tires and the employee who was taking my information stopped in the middle of his writing to ask if I was in the Air Force. Again, wearing the Green Class-B uniform I was asked if I was in the Air Force.

Wearing the dress blues with the jacket off I have been asked if I was in a marching band. With the jacket on I've been asked if I was a Marine. Went to my wife's Navy boot camp graduation and kept getting saluted because I had the older style service stripes and the service cap and no rank on my sleeve (funeral duty didn't allow for SPC and below to wear rank), the sailors had no idea what to do so they saluted.

Point is that no matter what the uniform is it will be mistaken for something else.

SFC James Baber - that's the problem with a forum like this it's easier to be nasty to each other regardless of rank.

SGM Matthew Quick, CPT (Join to see), CPT Michael Barden, SFC (Join to see) - Top to bottom, simply a fantastic thread. I’ve read it through twice.

For what it’s worth, and however late, the class Bs are impractical, uncomfortable and hard to look at.

They are a modified version of a dress uniform. You don’t wear a short sleeve dress shirt with your tuxedo pants and shoes and then go to work and call your attire “business professional”. You call that “foolish”.

If you want a business professional uniform, design one with that dedicated purpose in mind. But just as one camouflage pattern for every environment turned out to not be so great, one dress uniform, modifiable for any occasion from full formal wear to business professional, isn’t so great either.

Thoughts?