Posted on Apr 28, 2017
Saw an ROTC cadet drinking at a bar in Downtown LA. Do the same 670-1 rules apply?
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The answer may be obvious to some, but as a reservist, I do not think about Army regs 24/7 like I did when I was active. I was in downtown LA last night when I stumbled upon what appeared to be stolen valor, but really was an ROTC cadet celebrating his soon-to-be commission in ACUs. He said that since the sun was down he was allowed to drink and not wear a PC.. does this sound remotely correct?
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Finally, a question I can answer! Cadets are under CCR 670-1 (basically AR 670-1, but modified for our purposes). I can tell you definitively that this cadet was all kinds of wrong. First off... he should not have been in that uniform. Cadets are only authorized to wear our uniforms while:
(1) Assembling for the purpose of military instruction.
(2) Engaging in the military instruction of a cadet corps or similar organization.
(3) Traveling to and from the institution in which enrolled.
(4) Visiting a military station for participation in military drills or exercises.
(5) Attending other functions as authorized by the Battalion Commander for such wear.
Second, we don't get to roll our sleeves. Our commanding general (of Cadet Command) said no to that reaaallll fast.
Third, the PC is to be worn when not under cover at all times.
If he was about to commission, he's a senior cadet... he should know better.
(1) Assembling for the purpose of military instruction.
(2) Engaging in the military instruction of a cadet corps or similar organization.
(3) Traveling to and from the institution in which enrolled.
(4) Visiting a military station for participation in military drills or exercises.
(5) Attending other functions as authorized by the Battalion Commander for such wear.
Second, we don't get to roll our sleeves. Our commanding general (of Cadet Command) said no to that reaaallll fast.
Third, the PC is to be worn when not under cover at all times.
If he was about to commission, he's a senior cadet... he should know better.
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I don't know if it has changed but up till 2010 you were not allowed to be in off post establishments whose primary function was the sale of alcohol while in ACUs/ BDU's. Those were local policy letters that I remember being common to FT Benning, Sill, Hood, Lewis, Jackson and Leonard Wood.
The PC or (Beret at that time) was/ is always worn with the ACUs when not under cover (talking roof, not secret squirrel) that is in 670-1 and hasn't changed.
The PC or (Beret at that time) was/ is always worn with the ACUs when not under cover (talking roof, not secret squirrel) that is in 670-1 and hasn't changed.
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MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
CSM Richard StCyr, Big Blue had the same policy before I retired. I don't imagine it has softened all that much.
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MSgt (Join to see)
Yes, because three dollar notes were issued by states and some banks many years ago, but they were never issued by any US federal agency. So, at least a $3 bill has some credence. Wish I had one in my collection.
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