Posted on Sep 14, 2015
My Police Academy Teaches the ‘War on Cops’ Myth
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This perspective comes from an Iraq War vet currently in a police academy. He is using a pseudonym to avoid retribution.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/14/how-i-m-taught-about-the-war-on-cops-at-my-police-academy.html?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning#
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/14/how-i-m-taught-about-the-war-on-cops-at-my-police-academy.html?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning#
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Media outlets are in the business of making money. The war on cops is a story that sells. Easy math.
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COL Ted Mc
SGT Darryl Allen - Spec; Bingo!
On a per capita basis a police officer has roughly 5,000 times higher likelihood of being killed in the line of duty than a "Black" has of being killed by a police officer.
Equally, a "Black" has (roughly) a 20 times greater chance of being killed by a "Black" than they do of being killed by a police officer.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/394489/new-data-its-still-about-black-black-crime-heather-mac-donald
On a per capita basis a police officer has roughly 5,000 times higher likelihood of being killed in the line of duty than a "Black" has of being killed by a police officer.
Equally, a "Black" has (roughly) a 20 times greater chance of being killed by a "Black" than they do of being killed by a police officer.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/394489/new-data-its-still-about-black-black-crime-heather-mac-donald
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If you are saying that these is a "war on police" or "policing is more dangerous than in the past" you better have some data to refute this chart.
You want dangerous? Go work in a mine!
You want dangerous? Go work in a mine!
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CPT Ahmed Faried
I am a man who believes that police should be held to the same standards as everyone else when they make mistakes or break the law. "Badges don't grant extra rights" if you will.
With that being said, I obey the law and cooperate with the police should I have to deal with them (traffic stop for instance).
I am a man who believes that police should be held to the same standards as everyone else when they make mistakes or break the law. "Badges don't grant extra rights" if you will.
With that being said, I obey the law and cooperate with the police should I have to deal with them (traffic stop for instance).
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PO1 John Miller
CPT Ahmed Faried
I also have to say I'm not one of those douche bags who ask cops "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" if I'm being pulled over (though I haven't even been pulled over in 3 years).
I also have to say I'm not one of those douche bags who ask cops "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" if I'm being pulled over (though I haven't even been pulled over in 3 years).
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CPT Ahmed Faried
I ask no questions. Keeps my hands on the steering wheel and hope its over quickly.
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PO1 John Miller
CPT Ahmed Faried
Me too! I give them my license and all the paperwork they ask for and just try to get out of there as fast as I can.
Me too! I give them my license and all the paperwork they ask for and just try to get out of there as fast as I can.
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I think the worst part of this discussion is the fact that it’s a lot like atheism vs Christianity, it’s not that either side is 100% right, because neither side is, but is that both sides are so adamant and interested in proselytizing the other side into believing what they believe. The people that I talked to who say there is no issue with police being specifically targeted are not capable of just saying that they are not being targeted, but instead wish to attack the institutional policing within the United States is becoming corrupt for having this view. On the opposite side those that are either police officers or those who support police officers cannot simply say that their psychopaths within a population that do target police officers, it has to be that society is rising against police officers and wishes to destroy them. Everybody needs to take a breath and try to remain calm, rational, and compassionate. To be completely honest there are problems in the way that people on the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum are policed; I really don’t think that is a race thing, I think that it is easy for politicians to allocate resources to a poor community in the form of law enforcement than it is to allocate the same resources in another way that might be more beneficial to that community, it just so happens in the United States minority communities tend to be poor. At the same time there have been violent acts towards police officers that have to sit in the back of their heads every time they go to make contact with a member the community.
The actual article sounds like the author has experience as a law enforcement officer in the military, and is able to take a more analytical look at the training that he’s been provided at this time.
The actual article sounds like the author has experience as a law enforcement officer in the military, and is able to take a more analytical look at the training that he’s been provided at this time.
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We all need to respect for all lives. There was a young Kentucky trooper shot and killed not far from me this morning. This happens far too often.
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CPT Ahmed Faried
It is tragic and that trooper was just nine months out of the academy, a sad situation really. But no it happens less often than you think. A fisherman is more likely to die on the job than a police officer, ditto a bar tender.
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The hardest thing to do is to take a HARD look in the mirror and ask "are you part of the problem or are you a part of the solution". When this question is asked the instant answer will be I'm part of the solution without looking at simple stats. I understand the "us vs. them mentality. It's something I was told as a MP. But with mass media hyping the sheep in the nation, it really is becoming an us vs. them rivalry. It's not right, and the percentage of bad cops is ridiculously low. But in some places the lack of accountability in the force gives those hard working dedicated cops a bad name no matter what they do. I think what the author said is accurate (except Fuck the Police came out in 1993ish by NWA. It was a song that represented what they saw in their area of LA, and even they said it didn't describe all the cops, just the ones they dealt with), but it's not a "war" of people, it's a "war" of ideals. Right vs. Wrong. Mainstream media vs. independent thoughts. Personal agendas supported with money vs. honest and hardworking people. In the end there are two losers; the populace themselves and the cops that are supposed to enforce the laws. With that we've come full circle...us vs. them. Imagine for a minute if the news took out a whole week where they showed the good that mankind could do and left out the negative. We'd all be happy, but their revenue would suffer.
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When you consider soveriegn citizens, and other groups that have actively attacked and killed first responders, this myth is becoming more reality every day.
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Cpt Faried, you clearly do not follow current events. Start following city, county, and state law enforcement media (and not backwards liberal propaganda) and you will see - right in front of you - police officer assassinations and assassination attempts.
Enjoy my thumbs down, Sir.
Enjoy my thumbs down, Sir.
COL Ted Mc
SPC (Verify To See) - Spec; I don't think that I'll take those statistics to the media - I think that I'll let the Law Enforcement Officers who have compiled the do that for me.
As I said before "Of course there is a 'War On Police' - it's a media invention and it is making a whole lot of money for the people who perpetrate it.".
If you can't see that you are being manipulated, then it really doesn't matter what the actual reality is because you are going to act on what you think reality is. [We all do - it's just that some of us come a whole lot closer to having a view of reality that they can actually back up with facts than some others do.]
As I said before "Of course there is a 'War On Police' - it's a media invention and it is making a whole lot of money for the people who perpetrate it.".
If you can't see that you are being manipulated, then it really doesn't matter what the actual reality is because you are going to act on what you think reality is. [We all do - it's just that some of us come a whole lot closer to having a view of reality that they can actually back up with facts than some others do.]
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COL Ted Mc - Sir, I find that I am having to repeat myself here far too often. The anti-Police trend IS the 'War on Police.' Your statistics don't appear to cover thwarted attacks, death threats, nor close encounters. But because 'death stats' is the only thing you've read, suddenly it's the only right answer? The anti-Police threat is as real as the Islamic State threat (unless, of course, ISIS is a figment of my imagination as well).
Additionally, your facts are mere google searches populated by SEO results, so who's really being manipulated here? If that's your interpretation of "research," I think we can call an end to this debate indefinitely. I am hearing a lot of accusations that I'm not doing proper citing, yet the accusers are practicing the same. That is the fundamental quality of a hypocrite, is it not?
The people who started the 'war against police' are hardly news anchors. Black supremacists such as 'King Noble Black' made the declaration, which was merely confirmed by Sheriff David Clarke, and executed by inspired assailants nationwide. The only profitable items coming from this are 'Support Law Enforcement' ribbons, and I find it hard to believe that it generates so much wealth, worthy of an international conspiracy to generate a falsified news crisis. It sounds more like you have a problem with the media itself, and that's fine, but that's not the discussion, so I am unsure why you stray off topic.
In either case, I'd much rather be 'manipulated' into an aggregation of support for law enforcement, than the popular self-entitled anti-Police rhetoric ever present today (hint). This particular topic is taking up WAY more time than I'd like to commit and will effectively concede, agreeing with only the bracketed portion of your last paragraph. I'll read your reply but let's agree to disagree on this one.
Have a nice day, Sir.
Additionally, your facts are mere google searches populated by SEO results, so who's really being manipulated here? If that's your interpretation of "research," I think we can call an end to this debate indefinitely. I am hearing a lot of accusations that I'm not doing proper citing, yet the accusers are practicing the same. That is the fundamental quality of a hypocrite, is it not?
The people who started the 'war against police' are hardly news anchors. Black supremacists such as 'King Noble Black' made the declaration, which was merely confirmed by Sheriff David Clarke, and executed by inspired assailants nationwide. The only profitable items coming from this are 'Support Law Enforcement' ribbons, and I find it hard to believe that it generates so much wealth, worthy of an international conspiracy to generate a falsified news crisis. It sounds more like you have a problem with the media itself, and that's fine, but that's not the discussion, so I am unsure why you stray off topic.
In either case, I'd much rather be 'manipulated' into an aggregation of support for law enforcement, than the popular self-entitled anti-Police rhetoric ever present today (hint). This particular topic is taking up WAY more time than I'd like to commit and will effectively concede, agreeing with only the bracketed portion of your last paragraph. I'll read your reply but let's agree to disagree on this one.
Have a nice day, Sir.
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CPT Ahmed Faried
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ten-miles-square/2015/04/police_warriors_or_community_g055130.php
I'm still patiently awaiting the promised discussion.
I'm still patiently awaiting the promised discussion.
Police Warriors or Community Guardians?
Deadly police encounters can be prevented without sacrificing safety. But doing so will require changes in the very mind-set of police training.
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When you've contributed, I will oblige.
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