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Is the airborne concept outdated? In almost 14 years of war has there been any parachute deployments of troops into a combat zone?
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Brethren, I submit that the question to be asked is not whether an airborne force remains relevant rather, does the civilian and military leadership have the force of will necessary to commit to the use of such capability. The last ten years have seen improvments in static line and MFF parachute technology as well as improvement in planning tools and avionics. What has not changed is the doctrine to employ Airborne forces to minimize ground threat to aircraft and maximize combat power on the DZ and relevant engagement areas. What is needed is updates to our airborne doctrine and willingness to employ such forces.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
Likewise radar technology & handheld surface to air missiles have improved as well. One hit can take down an $20 millio0n dollar aircraft with how many troops on board? The Serbians showed that a combination of outdated civilian radar and Russian missiles can still bring down a stealth fighter, What chance does a C-130 or a C-17 have?
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The idea of not having an Airborne solution who is capable of being on location around the world in 18 hours from go is like taking your local law enforcements Dodge Chargers and giving them bicycles.
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The concept is not outdated however as was pointed your in Grenada and operations in WWII there are problems pulling off a major operation. The Air Force is very reluctant to support such an operation on several levels lack of sufficient aircraft being one reason. Secondly, there is and has never been a need to have combat service support troops on jump status to include helicopter pilots, air crews, finance clerks, etc. We are wasting resources with these groups being on status. It is a capability that needs to be retained, but needs to be re evaluated for todays times.
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Very good point. The reason the 82nd Airborne Division did not conduct more combat jumps in Afghanistan because of the Air Force (yes, they did do one jump because the Commander for 2nd Ranger Battalion was a former 2/504th Commander who wanted his current and previous commands to jump together but got a company from 1/504 instead). Bottom line, the Air Force was too concerned about the mythical MANPAD threat and would not fly below 12,000 feet. The Air Force does have more than enough aircraft to support airborne operations though and yes the military has far too many combat support and combat service support soldiers on airborne status.
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There will likely be a need for decades to come. However, the likelihood of large insertions is minimal and decreasing daily. Special Ops, Rangers and tactical Airborne associated with SoecOps support will always be there.
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FT. Bragg DRF rotation, as part of the U.S. Arsenal, is anything But outdated...
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During all Phases of OEF and OIF there were both static line and free fall insertions of both conventional and Special Operations forces throughout multiple theaters which all resulted in mission success that I don’t believe could’ve been accomplished by any other means. At least no means that would’ve have been as expeditious or decisive.
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Just because we didn’t use doesn’t mean we don’t need it. We have nuclear missiles that haven’t been used. Do we get rid of them?
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In some ways yes, in others no. If you want my opinion, we need to start focusing more financial resources on better parachutes so less soldiers lose their lives or suffer permanent, life changing, career ending injuries.
As far as I'm concerned anyone that defends the current, outdated way of approaching airborne is okay with every single one of those deaths and injuries.
As far as I'm concerned anyone that defends the current, outdated way of approaching airborne is okay with every single one of those deaths and injuries.
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