Posted on May 6, 2014
SSG Bas Ncoic
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An NCO who clearly demonstrates incompetence in leadership abilities,MOS, and overall Soldiering skills, what is the best way to remove this toxic leader?
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SSG Robert Burns
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Oh no I found another one. Is it "An NCO" or "A NCO?" I see this one all the time and it makes me shake. I believe the proper wording is "A" NCO. Someone make it stop!
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SGM Matthew Quick
SGM Matthew Quick
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The 'a' or 'an' is based on pronunciation, not the letter.
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SSG Robert Burns
SSG Robert Burns
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Im so confused. Time to go back to school.
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
CPT Aaron Kletzing
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MSG Quick is correct -- it depends on how you are pronouncing it.  So, you would say "a Non-Commissioned Officer"...and you would say "an NCO".
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SPC Brendan Kearns
SPC Brendan Kearns
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This reminded me of why high school English sucked.
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SSG Robert Burns
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For some reason the wording "demonstrates incompetence" in bothering me. It's like saying demonstrates the inability to.... If you don't have the ability then you can't demonstrate it. I know this doesn't help your question and maybe I'll respond to it soon but I have to deal with this because it's ruining my night. Excuse me while I go take my happy pills.
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CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A.
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Counseling and Documentation.... Be clear and specific.

What was the assigned task or responsibility?
What was the standard for accomplishment of that task?
How did the NCO fail to meet those standards?
What do you, as the supervisor, expect the NCO to do to remedy the deficiency?

This isn't too difficult. Get out AR 27-10 and make sure you understand corrective and additional training in chapter 3.

The more specific and measurable you can make the counselings the more strength you will have to support future recommendations for relief.

This takes time, but counseling is something no profession does very well. It's a conscious effort. It is also the foundation for making the entire promotion system work.

I will also add, be careful about using terms like toxic leadership. That concept is not recognized for use in supporting any sort of relief. It is also incredibly subjective. You will never see a person relieved for being a "toxic leader." There are other terms available in ADRP 6-22 under leadership competence and attributes. Those are concepts that get leaders relieved.
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MSG Usarec Liason At Nrpc/Nara
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Are they toxic or incompetent? Either way document each instance and then take it up your chain of command.
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