Posted on Sep 15, 2015
Did you know that Scientists have identiified a new ancient ancestor?
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http://cudenvertoday.org/scientists-identify-new-species-of-hominin-in-south-africa/
Did you know that Scientists identify a new ancient ancestor? (Click on Link above for the full story)
Again, I'm off my normal posting discussions, but I found this article to be very interesting and for some controversial as to the evolution of man.
RP Members what do you think? Did man evolve or was he created in the Garden of Eden? I'm looking for both perspectives in a professional dialogue.
1SG Randy BookSSG Eduardo Ybarra Jr. MS PsycPO2 Richard C.Richard VisconteSGT Michael HarbisonSGT David LacksSSgt James CottrellSP5 Rod BernsenTSgt Robert AllenSteve NewsomSSgt Craig DanielsonPre-CommissionCPO (Join to see)SPC Rikk HillicossLCpl Douglas Landrith JrSFC (Join to see)[~401551:CPO Tony Hatzenbuehler
Did you know that Scientists identify a new ancient ancestor? (Click on Link above for the full story)
Again, I'm off my normal posting discussions, but I found this article to be very interesting and for some controversial as to the evolution of man.
RP Members what do you think? Did man evolve or was he created in the Garden of Eden? I'm looking for both perspectives in a professional dialogue.
1SG Randy BookSSG Eduardo Ybarra Jr. MS PsycPO2 Richard C.Richard VisconteSGT Michael HarbisonSGT David LacksSSgt James CottrellSP5 Rod BernsenTSgt Robert AllenSteve NewsomSSgt Craig DanielsonPre-CommissionCPO (Join to see)SPC Rikk HillicossLCpl Douglas Landrith JrSFC (Join to see)[~401551:CPO Tony Hatzenbuehler
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CPT (Join to see)
One of the most disappointing things of this whole campaign season is that the media and their sycophants have successfully painted a world-renowned, absolutely brilliant brain surgeon as being stupid because he rejects certain mainstream ideas in scientific thought (most people have never done complicated scientific research, and never will, they take scientists ' pronouncements on authority ). You could disagree with some of what this man says, but to have accomplished what he has, he is clearly a genius.
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LTC Wayne Brandon
CMSgt Mark Schubert - This reply is 'spot on target!'
To take your comment regarding the literal length of a day a bit further, the specific translation from the Hebrew language for the word 'day' is the word 'sol' which means one twenty-four hour period. There is no 'Gap theory' and only those not believing in the inerrancy of the original translation from Greek to English will argue to the contrary.
To those believing we are still 'evolving' my question is "to what? and where is your evidence?"
I chose to believe all that God has said and am dubious of most of what scientists espouse as I recall a Newsweek article from around 1977 that by now, we should be in the second ice age. Somewhat later, Al Gore suggested we would have become a tropical nation by now (or some such nonsense). When their prophecies fail to come about, they head off in another direction to find a way to justify themselves, their theories and their federally subsidized paychecks. God has never had to do that.
Thank you for an intelligent and cogent post!
To take your comment regarding the literal length of a day a bit further, the specific translation from the Hebrew language for the word 'day' is the word 'sol' which means one twenty-four hour period. There is no 'Gap theory' and only those not believing in the inerrancy of the original translation from Greek to English will argue to the contrary.
To those believing we are still 'evolving' my question is "to what? and where is your evidence?"
I chose to believe all that God has said and am dubious of most of what scientists espouse as I recall a Newsweek article from around 1977 that by now, we should be in the second ice age. Somewhat later, Al Gore suggested we would have become a tropical nation by now (or some such nonsense). When their prophecies fail to come about, they head off in another direction to find a way to justify themselves, their theories and their federally subsidized paychecks. God has never had to do that.
Thank you for an intelligent and cogent post!
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
CPT (Join to see) - Some he did to himself, the Idea that the pyramids were grain silo was not a different look it was pure insanity supported by history, the Bible of even rational thought. Why would some g build a storage facility with almost no empty space. Not to mention we do know what Egyptian stagecraft facilities of the time looked like and the Pyramids predate the Jews arrival in Egypt approximately 100 generations.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs wow you want to talk about a breakthrough,(this is one of them). Scientist discovering Homo Naledi is a major breakthrough. I am at the crossroads when it comes to evolution of mankind, because I believe in Adam/Eve and the biblical existence of mankind. Scientist are forever evolving the existence of humans and with this discovery, it makes me wonder the evolution of Mankind.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
Sgt Kelli Mays - I'm not being snide or condescending. He is using a "friend" as a source. Who worked for Monsanto...really? Monsanto doesn't participate in archaeological digs. They work with pesticides and farming things. So he sounds a bit crazy when he says that he has a friend who worked for Monsanto and was part of a dig that found a 10,000 year old skeleton. THAT NEVER HAPPENED!! It would have been all over the news ESPECIALLY after all their lawsuits. You didn't add anything to this thread so why bother commenting to me?
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
LCpl Cody Collins - No they didn't find a Pepsi cap. Smh. Also my last name is Fuerhoff. Not Fueror.
Again give me some non-biblical sources. That is nothing more than a book of legends and tales. Told years after Jesus died. Not one word in there comes directly from Jesus. Also many, many books were left out when it was compiled. It's bullshit that's what I'm saying. That, the Quran, the Torah. Religious dogma is bullshit.
Where in the Bible does time travel come up? Also FALSE about the medical symbol being related to Moses. The caduceus comes from the Greek κηρύκειον kērúkeion "herald's wand, or staff." "The symbol is the staff carried by Hermes in Greek mythology and consequently by Hermes Trismegistus in Greco-Egyptian mythology. The same staff was also borne by heralds in general, for example by Iris, the messenger of Hera. It is a short staff entwined by two serpents, sometimes surmounted by wings. In Roman iconography, it was often depicted being carried in the left hand of Mercury, the messenger of the gods, guide of the dead and protector of merchants, shepherds, gamblers, liars, and thieves."
"Some accounts suggest that the oldest known imagery of the caduceus have their roots in a Mesopotamian origin with the Sumerian god Ningishzida whose symbol, a staff with two snakes intertwined around it, dates back to 4000 B.C. to 3000 B.C."
"As a symbolic object, it represents Hermes (or the Roman Mercury), and by extension trades, occupations, or undertakings associated with the god. In later Antiquity, the caduceus provided the basis for the astrological symbol representing the planet Mercury. Thus, through its use in astrology and alchemy, it has come to denote the elemental metal of the same name. It is said the wand would wake the sleeping and send the awake to sleep. If applied to the dying, their death was gentle; if applied to the dead, they returned to life."
Nothing you mentioned has anything to do with the Bible. Not time travel. Not the medical symbol. What are you talking about take god out of public life? If you want to believe in god fine. Do it on your own time in your place of worship. Not in schools. Not in courthouses. Not anything that is public or government controlled. Thomas Jefferson spoke of separation of church and state for a reason. We don't need something like the Church of England here. That's why the Founders kept religion out of the Constitution and it is not a basis of our law. That's why we don't have crap like sharia law. If you want religion mixed in with law that's what we will get - sharia law.
This is not a Christian country. It never has been. Most of the Founders were spiritual - not religious.
Again give me some non-biblical sources. That is nothing more than a book of legends and tales. Told years after Jesus died. Not one word in there comes directly from Jesus. Also many, many books were left out when it was compiled. It's bullshit that's what I'm saying. That, the Quran, the Torah. Religious dogma is bullshit.
Where in the Bible does time travel come up? Also FALSE about the medical symbol being related to Moses. The caduceus comes from the Greek κηρύκειον kērúkeion "herald's wand, or staff." "The symbol is the staff carried by Hermes in Greek mythology and consequently by Hermes Trismegistus in Greco-Egyptian mythology. The same staff was also borne by heralds in general, for example by Iris, the messenger of Hera. It is a short staff entwined by two serpents, sometimes surmounted by wings. In Roman iconography, it was often depicted being carried in the left hand of Mercury, the messenger of the gods, guide of the dead and protector of merchants, shepherds, gamblers, liars, and thieves."
"Some accounts suggest that the oldest known imagery of the caduceus have their roots in a Mesopotamian origin with the Sumerian god Ningishzida whose symbol, a staff with two snakes intertwined around it, dates back to 4000 B.C. to 3000 B.C."
"As a symbolic object, it represents Hermes (or the Roman Mercury), and by extension trades, occupations, or undertakings associated with the god. In later Antiquity, the caduceus provided the basis for the astrological symbol representing the planet Mercury. Thus, through its use in astrology and alchemy, it has come to denote the elemental metal of the same name. It is said the wand would wake the sleeping and send the awake to sleep. If applied to the dying, their death was gentle; if applied to the dead, they returned to life."
Nothing you mentioned has anything to do with the Bible. Not time travel. Not the medical symbol. What are you talking about take god out of public life? If you want to believe in god fine. Do it on your own time in your place of worship. Not in schools. Not in courthouses. Not anything that is public or government controlled. Thomas Jefferson spoke of separation of church and state for a reason. We don't need something like the Church of England here. That's why the Founders kept religion out of the Constitution and it is not a basis of our law. That's why we don't have crap like sharia law. If you want religion mixed in with law that's what we will get - sharia law.
This is not a Christian country. It never has been. Most of the Founders were spiritual - not religious.
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LCpl Cody Collins
Sorry Kelly about the misspelling. And I got the Pepsi cap dig from the movie Predator movie. The one where they were in the north pole.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
I'm just glad we live in a Nation that allows people to believe what they want to, and others can doubt or dispute all they want. The big boom theory and that side gets pretty deep. Folks like Carl Sagan amassed many PhD's in the pursuit of the whole story. It was simpler when I was a child. I remember references to God creating the Heavens and the Earth, but always wondered in simple terms that only a child would understand, where was he sitting when he did all this? That gets into the scientific side's attempts to rationalize that the whole concept of "nothingness" doesn't work. There is a term and symbol for infinity but nothing for the exact opposite of infinity. We have a number called zero (0) but that is not the same as nothing, even though we consider 0 as nothing in terms of quantity and accounting. Even the spinning universes, black holes, and collisions that created planets all had to have a beginning somewhere. That's where the "nothing" argument comes in. It's almost like a sentence without any first words. Just a blank space followed by words (events) that further conveys the thought (formation of the universes). Although there is a null bit/character in data and a space bar on a keyboard, there is no key on the keyboard for nothing (meaning not even a blank space but absolutely nothing or the absence of a keystroke). Or a trip to a destination without any starting point. Just a vehicle suddenly showing up on a road and destinations after that, but no record or recollection of the first part of the trip. They also tie the time/space thing in with theories about time lapses and black holes, with God particles (Higgs boson) and anti-matter. Way too deep for me, and it's challenging enough just keeping the car on the road without trying to establish how the journey started. Although the science vs creation arguments don't coincide and contradict, neither has any clear proof of the actual starting point. We'll likely never know the whole story but I'm fine with that. If "faith" causes people to act in a civilized fashion and it causes no harm to others then that's fine with me. If "science" wants scientific evidence then let them look for it and good luck.
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Stories like this with evidence of some sort of proof really throw a wrench into my beliefs. That being said...I believe in GOD, but I do believe in evolution to an extent.
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Cpl Isaac Park
Science doesnt exist to shatter your faith, Sergeant. Whatever happens to your faith is resultant from the conclusion you have drawn about what you should do with your religious beliefs upon becoming educated about new scientific discoveries. Science is not antireligion and vice versa. You can be selective in what you believe from both.
tl;dr: You are creating a false dilemma when you feel the need to choose one over the other.
tl;dr: You are creating a false dilemma when you feel the need to choose one over the other.
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SP5 Jeannie Carle
I agree Sgt Kelli Mays ---- and no I don't think, as someone commented earlier - that to evolve means we're "becoming something else" - I believe that we are, at least theoretically, supposed to be becoming "better" to suit our environment and society.
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