Posted on Sep 27, 2017
What can be done to a Soldier who refuses to study for the board because he will be ETSing next year?
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I will guess that this is being driven by your senior leadership. For the life of me, I never understood why Soldiers who clearly did not want to go to the board were pressured into going. I think it is a very bad idea. The Soldier stated they are going to ETS. That should be the end of the discussion. It should be a simple matter to put that on a counseling statement. "You are not being recommended for the promotion board at this time because you have stated you do not have a desire to become a Noncommissioned Officer". If they change their mind, about ETS then reevaluate at that time. The Soldier is an adult and should be treated as such. They said they don't want to go and they are getting out. That's cool, they need to live with that.
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SGT David T.
SGM Erik Marquez - Money isn't the only factor. Overall happiness was the big one for me.
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SPC Gabriel Bregg
This was exactly me. I went back in at 33 for my own reasons, knew I was doing 3 and out. Got back from deployment with about 9 months left, had to do WLC. Luckily my CoC (other than our CSM) knew there was no way I was staying in. Why waste a promotion slot on a guy who knows he's out?
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SGT David T. They tried to get me to go to the board with 6 months left. My 1SG called me in and said he I was slotted for E5 board and I replied thanks for the offer 1SG but not going to re enlist so use this slot for another soldier. 1SG replied thanks for your honesty will do. That was the end of the conversation.
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I really don't understand the CoC reasoning for pushing this SM into something he is not willing to put effort in it. Wouldn't it be better to get the ones more interested in advancement?
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Other than counsel him to consider all options, ETS might be the plan today, but plans change .. If next year the plan changes to stay in, would he rather stay in as his current rank or be set for or already promoted to the next higher one having studied and killed the promotion board.
Perhaps he has a well planned goal post service and its not apathy, but well intentioned focus on the goal?
If not that, and he just is not interested in considering / planning for the future.. Make sure he hears the concerns and move on.
Other than counsel him to consider all options, ETS might be the plan today, but plans change .. If next year the plan changes to stay in, would he rather stay in as his current rank or be set for or already promoted to the next higher one having studied and killed the promotion board.
Perhaps he has a well planned goal post service and its not apathy, but well intentioned focus on the goal?
If not that, and he just is not interested in considering / planning for the future.. Make sure he hears the concerns and move on.
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGT Eric Knutson - I think we agree,, but again,,, knowing the Sm is what gets you there.
They are adults after all, so inform, even pressure perhaps knowing there is no down side and likely a benefit.
But it goes both ways, when the SM says he is spending all his free time studying for his MCATS while taking 6 semester hours as well trying to get as far in his degree needs as he can before he gets out. Id be hard pressed to tell that SM, he would be better off taking a semester off and study for the Promotion board.
They are adults after all, so inform, even pressure perhaps knowing there is no down side and likely a benefit.
But it goes both ways, when the SM says he is spending all his free time studying for his MCATS while taking 6 semester hours as well trying to get as far in his degree needs as he can before he gets out. Id be hard pressed to tell that SM, he would be better off taking a semester off and study for the Promotion board.
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SGT Eric Knutson
SGM Erik Marquez - The only boards I remember taking more than about a week to practice for were for the Div SM / NCO of the year. My promotion boards both, I only had about a week to prep for. and that was mostly so you could get your uniform cleaned and ready (and no, we were not allowed to use Mae Su at the laundrymat haha). but it was no biggie since the questions were about things we are supposed to know anyway, we applied the "hit it and get it" approach. BTW 200 both times 1st try each.
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SGT Eric Knutson
SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM - not disagreeing with you in the least. I remember my ETS procedures and I was NOT really ready for the outside world, but I understand things have gotten much better in the last 22 years as well
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