Posted on Nov 17, 2015
What's your best example of high-speed & low-budget training?
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Some time ago I participated in the Best Sapper competition. One of the stations had a GP Medium and a CLS bag in font of it. The OC says, "Take the bag, go inside and react to what you see." Inside the tent is no light, a boom box playing some kind of death metal, and 3-4 casualties with various wounds thrashing around. The task is to stabilize the casualties and CASEVAC the most critically wounded. On the other side of the tent was a concertina obstacle field to navigate.
That was one of the coolest pieces of training I've ever participated in. It was low budget and a squad could do it. I think about that a lot and compare with the times I've seen first aid training be a crate of old pressure dressings and a green skill level 1 book that someone is reading out of.
Whats your example of high speed low budget training? (Pic Related)
That was one of the coolest pieces of training I've ever participated in. It was low budget and a squad could do it. I think about that a lot and compare with the times I've seen first aid training be a crate of old pressure dressings and a green skill level 1 book that someone is reading out of.
Whats your example of high speed low budget training? (Pic Related)
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I'll preface this by fully admitting I'm an oddball and likely hold a minority opinion in this. I like running around in the woods. Land nav was always a favorite of mine and doesn't require much in the way of a budget. To the end of my days I will never forget going through Fort Bragg's land nav course at night during a tropical storm. You'd think they'd pause training. You'd be wrong, and unlike the rest of my peers I was having a blast feeling like a true soldier.
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SSG Robert Webster
SGT (Join to see) - Were you on one of the Ft Bragg Courses, or were you on the big course out at Camp Mackall?
SGT Robertson has a point, it is how you look at the training. His example is a good one, Land Navigation is an excellent and easy place to start. It is also about how you go about the training and its implementation. To enthuse your soldiers on this subject, turn it into a competition. Style Land Navigation training as Orienteering, Geocaching, or some other façade to make the activity more enjoyable. Do not forget or be afraid to switch things around and combine various aspects of other types of training into the mix.
Also think about mixing training with other types of units, such as Infantry and Engineers, think about the possibilities if you set your mind to it. Everyone likes to make things go BOOM! A lot of people like water activities (Infantryman and Medics - get your mind out of the gutter).
One thing that some of you will need to brush up on and it is a good method of transition training to boot; Be able to explain the purpose and style of training to your chain of command and subordinates. Along the lines of task, conditions, and standards and be able to switch between strictly military terms and the appropriate civilianized terms.
One other thing, not all training has to be conducted in full battle rattle.
SGT Robertson has a point, it is how you look at the training. His example is a good one, Land Navigation is an excellent and easy place to start. It is also about how you go about the training and its implementation. To enthuse your soldiers on this subject, turn it into a competition. Style Land Navigation training as Orienteering, Geocaching, or some other façade to make the activity more enjoyable. Do not forget or be afraid to switch things around and combine various aspects of other types of training into the mix.
Also think about mixing training with other types of units, such as Infantry and Engineers, think about the possibilities if you set your mind to it. Everyone likes to make things go BOOM! A lot of people like water activities (Infantryman and Medics - get your mind out of the gutter).
One thing that some of you will need to brush up on and it is a good method of transition training to boot; Be able to explain the purpose and style of training to your chain of command and subordinates. Along the lines of task, conditions, and standards and be able to switch between strictly military terms and the appropriate civilianized terms.
One other thing, not all training has to be conducted in full battle rattle.
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SSG Robert Webster, I honestly have no idea which course I was on. I was visiting Fort Bragg from Fort Riley for EFMB training.
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SSG Robert Webster
SGT (Join to see) - Thanks that answers my question. You were probably on the Land Navigation Course in Area J. (All of you Paratroopers out there, no remarks about the Keys to Area J.) This is the one that was also used as an Orienteering Course, when they had those competitions. The other alternative would be the NCO Academy Land Navigation Course. That is if they have not changed things too drastically in the past 20 years.
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At the company or platoon level, conduct a no notice roll out. The evaluator issues a Frago. The leaders then have to do the TLPs and issue an order. The master Frago needs to be written and checked by others so it hits all the tasks you want to do. If done right, the unit can roll out, practice convoying, reporting, checkpoints, mounted navigation, map reading, security halts, drivers training, quartering party, establish unit area, bug out plan etc. plus it validates unit maintenance and gets lowest level ownership of their equipment since they will be stranded with it. Recovery could also be planned or unplanned. You can kill off leaders to thrust others into leadership positions, especially those with a big mouth or that complain a lot.
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SSG Robert Webster - It sounds good, but I don't think it's realistic with how the Army is today with budget cuts, personnel shortages etc...also you have to show that your unit can effectively mobilize on moments notice FIRST before you can talk about planning high speed training in some remote training area. Don't wanna throw the proverbial cart before the horse...
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SSG Robert Webster
SGT (Join to see) - That is definitely an interesting comment about cost from both you and LTC Mackay. Let me give you some background information about why I stated the two locations and the type of training mentioned.
I joined the Army in 1976. Note that between 1975 and 1980, readiness was at dangerously low levels. During the 1970s the military budget was cut to bare bones and manning was at extremely low levels (an example was an infantry squad with 5 members instead of the 11 members that at that time it constituted). We also had low levels of moral and had severe problems with discipline. And we had to deal with the consequences of the 73 and 79 oil crisis.
During this time period, we had to work through and around these types of issues.
During this time there were resourceful leaders in a number of units though-out the Army and the rest of the Armed Services. Two of the company commanders that I had during this time period were able to overcome these obstacles and provide training experiences that few would try to replicate. One of these was an off post exercise from Fort Bragg to Fort Lewis and Crystal Mountain Ski Resort (at the time the ski resort had a use agreement with Fort Lewis). The second that I will mention was an off post exercise from Fort Bragg to Fort Carson (for Mountaineering training). What those company commanders did was to leverage the minimum training requirements and needs of several commands and services. In both instances the commanders were able to leverage the fact that the Air Force was rotating aircraft from the various transport units between there home stations and support missions and melded our needs with theirs, that took care of the cost aspect since the aircraft had to be moved, air crews needed the training and certification aspects, and we needed the airborne operations to stay current for pay purposes. Next we were able to use either our own personnel or other units personnel that were already qualified to assist in providing the training, i.e. we were able to use our personnel that had attended or had been instructors at the Northern Warfare Training Center; or we were able to coordinate our training with the training needs of Special Forces. Take a look around, where is certain types of "fun" training normally conducted - skiing, mountaineering, water operations, etc.. With appropriate planning, being resourceful in leveraging the needs of other units or services, amazing, fun, moral boosting, "high speed" training can be accomplished with minimal cost to all involved. Take a look around, you might be surprised at what you can find, if you just think a little outside the box of current thinking. Looking at the past is not always such a bad thing, when there are lessons to be learned. Especially in the forth coming days of possible austerity.
I forgot to mention that this was in the 82nd Abn Div. Where then and now EDREs, call outs are second nature. I should also mention that I spent all but 3 years in either the 82nd, the on call Abn Company in Panama, and the JSA. So 2 hour recalls were the norm for me. And for Korea the JSA has the quickest standup time for the entire peninsula.
I joined the Army in 1976. Note that between 1975 and 1980, readiness was at dangerously low levels. During the 1970s the military budget was cut to bare bones and manning was at extremely low levels (an example was an infantry squad with 5 members instead of the 11 members that at that time it constituted). We also had low levels of moral and had severe problems with discipline. And we had to deal with the consequences of the 73 and 79 oil crisis.
During this time period, we had to work through and around these types of issues.
During this time there were resourceful leaders in a number of units though-out the Army and the rest of the Armed Services. Two of the company commanders that I had during this time period were able to overcome these obstacles and provide training experiences that few would try to replicate. One of these was an off post exercise from Fort Bragg to Fort Lewis and Crystal Mountain Ski Resort (at the time the ski resort had a use agreement with Fort Lewis). The second that I will mention was an off post exercise from Fort Bragg to Fort Carson (for Mountaineering training). What those company commanders did was to leverage the minimum training requirements and needs of several commands and services. In both instances the commanders were able to leverage the fact that the Air Force was rotating aircraft from the various transport units between there home stations and support missions and melded our needs with theirs, that took care of the cost aspect since the aircraft had to be moved, air crews needed the training and certification aspects, and we needed the airborne operations to stay current for pay purposes. Next we were able to use either our own personnel or other units personnel that were already qualified to assist in providing the training, i.e. we were able to use our personnel that had attended or had been instructors at the Northern Warfare Training Center; or we were able to coordinate our training with the training needs of Special Forces. Take a look around, where is certain types of "fun" training normally conducted - skiing, mountaineering, water operations, etc.. With appropriate planning, being resourceful in leveraging the needs of other units or services, amazing, fun, moral boosting, "high speed" training can be accomplished with minimal cost to all involved. Take a look around, you might be surprised at what you can find, if you just think a little outside the box of current thinking. Looking at the past is not always such a bad thing, when there are lessons to be learned. Especially in the forth coming days of possible austerity.
I forgot to mention that this was in the 82nd Abn Div. Where then and now EDREs, call outs are second nature. I should also mention that I spent all but 3 years in either the 82nd, the on call Abn Company in Panama, and the JSA. So 2 hour recalls were the norm for me. And for Korea the JSA has the quickest standup time for the entire peninsula.
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SSG Robert Webster - That's good info and background, you should consider writing your own blog about your experiences
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