Open Carry
Open Carry
Posted on Mar 29, 2018
I have conflicting feelings over this. I know that open carry is a thing in Texas, but who crossed the line, if anyone?
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CJ Grisham, President of Open Carry Texas, Army veteran and recent candidate for State Representative in District 55, along with a couple of other people was arrested yesterday in Olmos Park, TX (Bexar County). He was tazed and subsequently injured in that arrest with a head injury and was hospitalized. I was told that the head injury was a large gash on the back of the head. He also suffered numerous scrapes on his wrists and arms.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
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In essence, this was a constitutional audit that Olmos Park Police department failed to a level no one imagined. They went there to expose the corruption and constitutional violations of the Olmos Park Police department. All OPPD had to do was honor their oaths. Instead, the held armed and unarmed civilians at gunpoint, assaulted two people who were neither suspected of not committing crimes, destroyed evidence (broke camera of Jim Everard), seized and kept cell phones (because of the video that was taken on them), they tazed and assualted a man who was neither a threat nor a suspect, they kidnapped a woman on a retaliation warrant that they got for "interfering" for her videotaping them harrassing someone with a sign, then that same officer that had assaulted that lady prior got caught on tape threatening to rape her when she was in back of the police car, they falsified documents, filed false charges, lied, bragged about "squashing the rebel" because they knew who they had, held other camera operators at gunpoint, and the list goes on. Not sure why you're conflicted unless you believe in backing the blue no matter how corruption the officers are. If OPPD has egg on it's face, they put it there themselves.
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SGT James George
SPC Chris Ison - we all have the right to carry. why is the 1st amendment license free, yet the 2nd one isnt? why are all other licenses honored across state borders except for CCW? this is all about political ideology, this isnt about identifying a good or bad guy with a gun.
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CPO Gerald Burns
SGT Dan Gray - I have several grandchildren in school and I suspect that they were never taught. My grandson asked why they were not taught about the constitution and its powers . I had no answer for him and had to leave it at that. My children also stated that they got out of school AND COLLEGE without learning anything in depth about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. SAD ! No wonder this country is so lost, a bunch of liberal (Read Communist) teachers have decided that they know better than anyone else what is good for us to know ! ! It is sad that this great nation is on the verge of total collapse and no one seems to care ! It makes me sad this is not the same nation that I spent 20 years defending in the military.
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SPC Chris Ison
SGT Dan Gray - The constituion limits the federal governemnt not the state. And Heller v. DC says that the governemnts can limit guns based upon public health reasons.
"Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment, nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms."
"Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment, nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms."
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Now accepting applications for the position of Police Chief in Olmos Park TX. Several positions for patrol officer will also be available.
I hope that Chief has a VERY good attorney on retainer. He's going to need one.
I hope that Chief has a VERY good attorney on retainer. He's going to need one.
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SSG(P) D. Wright Downs
CW3 Dick McManus - Well, Chief, Mr. Trump was hell of a lot better than the person who was running against him and her track record was really one that sucked. As usual, I went with the one that I felt I could trust more and that was the non-politician. I am the first to say he was not perfect…most of us who voted for him agree on that and most of us agree that he had his moments and his times really upset us. HOWEVER, look at all he accomplished. I am not going to run a laundry list here as you did. I am not a liberal and I am not a republican. I am an American, Independent, and conservative. I vote for the person who I feel best represents the interest of my country and me. We didn’t have another Benghazi and he di a lot for the economy, the military, and made inroads with diplomacy where it had never been made before. I think that was a plus.
I am an MST survivor and I had a choice, keep my mouth shut and have a career the military or speak up and get thrown out and have the perp promoted. Kept my mouth shut and at least the perp dint’ get promoted…I was lead to believe that he may have been ruffed up by some of my friends at a later date. I have no proof of that, though. So, I understand and know where the woman are coming from. I have been there. There was no press given to me or others who were in my situation. We just sucked it up and decades later the military still does nothing. We continue to suck it up. Why are civilian woman not trained to do the same…not that they should, but we military woman do because it is what we have to do. We have done it for decades.
I voted for Mr. Trump the second time, too. He was better than the other choice and HE HAD ACCOMPLISHED MORE THAN THE PREVIOUS 4 ADMINISTRATIONS HAD DONE.
I am an MST survivor and I had a choice, keep my mouth shut and have a career the military or speak up and get thrown out and have the perp promoted. Kept my mouth shut and at least the perp dint’ get promoted…I was lead to believe that he may have been ruffed up by some of my friends at a later date. I have no proof of that, though. So, I understand and know where the woman are coming from. I have been there. There was no press given to me or others who were in my situation. We just sucked it up and decades later the military still does nothing. We continue to suck it up. Why are civilian woman not trained to do the same…not that they should, but we military woman do because it is what we have to do. We have done it for decades.
I voted for Mr. Trump the second time, too. He was better than the other choice and HE HAD ACCOMPLISHED MORE THAN THE PREVIOUS 4 ADMINISTRATIONS HAD DONE.
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CW3 Dick McManus
SSG(P) D. Wright Downs - I had to google “MST survivor” so I assume you meant Military Sexual Trauma, correct?
I believe Trumpster is a lying sociopath criminal.
Crooked Hillary needs to be prosecuted
She and Bill Clinton are guilty of trafficking in cocaine and launder money with the CIA in order to illegally fund the Contras 86 pages. And Hillary had to Know.
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I believe Trumpster is a lying sociopath criminal.
Crooked Hillary needs to be prosecuted
She and Bill Clinton are guilty of trafficking in cocaine and launder money with the CIA in order to illegally fund the Contras 86 pages. And Hillary had to Know.
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According to former National Security Agency officer Bill Binney, the DNC computer was not hacked by Russians, rather someone physically downloaded the documents onto a thumb drive. He also believes the intelligence community has not told the truth about what happened. Binney said there is a possibility that the NSA itself hacked the Democratic National Committee's emails and gave the files to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. https://freedomoutpost.com/nsa-veteran-bill-binney-public-lied-russia-election-meddling/
NSA trace route packets are embedded in hundreds of switchers around the world, and that email messages are easily traced. If it was a hack, Binney reveals, the NSA would know who the sender and recipients of the data are, thanks to mass internet surveillance programs. The intelligence apparatus does not depend on “circumstantial evidence,” as has been reported.
Binney said, “The evidence that should be there is absent; otherwise, it would surely be brought forward, since this could be done without any danger to sources and methods,” the letter stated. “Thus, we conclude that the emails were leaked by an insider – as was the case with Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. Such an insider could be anyone in a government department or agency with access to NSA databases, or perhaps someone within the DNC.”
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CLINTON CORRUPTION DOCUMENTARY
Pay to play by Sec/State Hillary Clinton
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Hillary Clinton had to sign a document when she was read onto TS/SCI/SAP, Gama access.
She and her aides were warned of the punishment for not following NSA directives in transmitting TS/SCI or SAP national security information. They had to sign a non-disclosure agreement after this briefing about what they could say or not say about the Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) compartments to which they were read-on to. I used to do the briefings for soldiers within the Army.
Eight top secret passages and 37 secret passages - that passed through Clinton's private server suggested criminality. And FBI document said, “The sheer volume of information that was properly classified as Secret at the time it was discussed on email supports an inference that the participants were grossly negligent in their handling of that information."
The server and cell phone use by Hillary was not a mistake, it was criminal negligence and intent is not an element of this crime and with regard to classified top secret/special access program information, everyone else would be in jail for ten years and $10,000 fine.
NSA still has a copy of the 30,000 email Hillary or her aides destroyed.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bill+binney+hillary+clinton%27s+email&view=detail&mid=C0D47BC264C9A20EE857C0D47BC264C9A20EE857&FORM=VIRE
Hillary Clinton got a $142 million dollars into her foundation from a Russian Company. This company bought 20 percent of the US production of uranium and is being shipped to Russia.
Hillary Clinton voted for the war against Iraq, she sent the CIA into Syria resulting in 500,000 civilian deaths.
Bill Clinton went on to receive $104.9 million dollars for speeches. That is all the evidence I need to know she and he are crooks
Clinton had taken the then (she thought) politically expedient decision to vote in favor of the Iraq invasion.
The Libyan people loved Gaddafi. Obama and Hillary Clinton bombed Libya without a declaration of war, yet the Libyan people loved Gaddafi and they hated extremist Muslims, as did Gaddafi. In addition to bombing Libya, MI6 and Turkey sent Muslim /Arab extremist were to Libya to destroy the peace and prevent Gaddafi from establishing a banking system based on gold for Libya and its African neighbors. The Libyan National Army is now winning against those bad boys. The Libyan National Army was always loyal to Gaddafi. They did this even after 9/11 the CIA renditioned detainees for torture to Libya or maybe just passed thru Libya in flights to other nations for torture.
On foreign policy Sec/State Clinton backed the coup makers in Honduras.
Oct 18, 2019: The State Department has completed its internal investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s use of private email and found violations by 38 people, some of whom may face disciplinary action. The department began the investigation in 2016 after declaring 22 emails from Clinton’s private server to be “top secret.”
The department said it found a total of 588 violations involving information then or now deemed to be classified but could not assign fault in 497 cases.
The report concluded “that the use of a private email system to conduct official business added an increased degree of risk of compromise as a private system lacks the network monitoring and intrusion detection capabilities of State Department networks.”
The Justice Department’s inspector general said FBI specialists did not find evidence that the server had been hacked, with one forensics agent saying he felt “fairly confident that there wasn’t an intrusion.”
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SSgt Robert Van Buhler III
I will fault Trump when Biden's sticky fingers stay off of women and out of their pants. CW3 why the politics here. Won't anyone listen to you at home now that you are retired?
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SSG(P) D. Wright Downs
CW3 Dick McManus - If you had to Google 'MST survivor', you are way out of touch with the military and those who served under you and with you while you were into the politics. Yes, ole Google gave you the correct answer. About 80% of women and 15% of men are raped or assaulted yearly. Your leadership skills are lacking to not have been aware of this. Did you have to wait to read about Jessica at Ft Hood to be aware of what is going on on our Army?
I am not interested in your books, gratis or not, but thank you for the offer. I spend my “spare" time as a volunteer assisting young veterans and their issues. I feel that is important as one who has been there and didn’t have to read about it in books or google.
I am not interested in your books, gratis or not, but thank you for the offer. I spend my “spare" time as a volunteer assisting young veterans and their issues. I feel that is important as one who has been there and didn’t have to read about it in books or google.
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The police chief should be held accountable above all but also hold the officers accountable who obeyed an unlawful order. They should not be let off easily.
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SFC Matthew Parker - He was not wrong. The Nazi saw the protest signs, KNEW open carry was legal, yet violated his oath and the rights of all involved.
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SFC Matthew Parker
SGT (Join to see) - He was wrong, And what protest? The law was changed. This was a 2nd amendment audit to provoke a response from the police, not a protest.
CJ knew the police were going to over react and he handled it wrong.
Stop defending the acts of a child having a temper tantrum.
BTW, The next time police respond to a 911 call and save a child or stop a violent criminal act go ahead and walk up and yell Nazi at them. Next time a police officer stops to save the life of someone in a car wreck, just run up and yell obscenities at them.
Run for office, disband your police department, see how you feel then.
CJ knew the police were going to over react and he handled it wrong.
Stop defending the acts of a child having a temper tantrum.
BTW, The next time police respond to a 911 call and save a child or stop a violent criminal act go ahead and walk up and yell Nazi at them. Next time a police officer stops to save the life of someone in a car wreck, just run up and yell obscenities at them.
Run for office, disband your police department, see how you feel then.
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MSgt J D McKee
PO1 H Gene Lawrence - "you can beat the charge but you can't beat the ride", is what you described was called when I was a deputy. Totally true, and it sucks.
But, "trying to win your cause in the streets never works out?" Naw, can't go with that. If there are enough people involved, and the other side doesn't use machine-guns for crowd control, it always works. The founding fathers were just people, not heroes out of legend, THEY took it to the streets opposed by the British Army, not some sad fat fucks too scared to "allow" fellow citizens the right to be armed. Having spent most of my adult life armed and in the company of other armed people, my only concern in that situation would be an ND. From the cops fiddling with their guns out of fear because their special status is being questioned in the only way that matters.
But, "trying to win your cause in the streets never works out?" Naw, can't go with that. If there are enough people involved, and the other side doesn't use machine-guns for crowd control, it always works. The founding fathers were just people, not heroes out of legend, THEY took it to the streets opposed by the British Army, not some sad fat fucks too scared to "allow" fellow citizens the right to be armed. Having spent most of my adult life armed and in the company of other armed people, my only concern in that situation would be an ND. From the cops fiddling with their guns out of fear because their special status is being questioned in the only way that matters.
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SGT Walter Drumm
The fact that this happened in Bexar County should be anything but a surprise. Only Austin is a bigger liberal rathole.
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