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Posted on Nov 21, 2024
Women in combat ‘proficient,’ SecDef says, dismissing calls for change
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Women in combat ‘proficient,’ SecDef says, dismissing calls for change
MY SAY: They are both right. I believe that given the opportunity in segregated units, all women combat arms forces could rival any all-male unit on earth.
MY SAY: They are both right. I believe that given the opportunity in segregated units, all women combat arms forces could rival any all-male unit on earth.
Women in combat ‘proficient,’ SecDef says, dismissing calls for change
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The only people that have tried it in the real world are the Soviets and the Israelis. The Israelis have tried it twice and have backed off twice. They backed off because the average performance of female infantry units were at the bottom of their male counterparts and the injury rate was more than double the rate of male soldiers. The US Army sees that even in basic training units. Combat Arms takes endurance and strength. Men as a whole are stronger, faster and have better endurance. It looks like Lea Thompson would have driven that point home. A mediocre male swimmer becomes world class by changing his "gender".
The purpose of the Army is to win wars. In the modern military, there are lots of positions that females are more than capable of handling. Combat Arms isn't one of them.
As an example, the implementation of the ACFT wasn't stopped because of the failure rate of Male Soldiers. Even when doing away with the MOS ranked scoring, female soldiers were failing at a rate that kept them out of very jobs they wanted to open. The Army tried a very similar PT test in the late 80's and it didn't get beyond the testing stages for the same reason, the pass rate for women sucked.
The purpose of the Army is to win wars. In the modern military, there are lots of positions that females are more than capable of handling. Combat Arms isn't one of them.
As an example, the implementation of the ACFT wasn't stopped because of the failure rate of Male Soldiers. Even when doing away with the MOS ranked scoring, female soldiers were failing at a rate that kept them out of very jobs they wanted to open. The Army tried a very similar PT test in the late 80's and it didn't get beyond the testing stages for the same reason, the pass rate for women sucked.
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Why "in segregated units"?
That did not work in the WAC. (I know, I married one)
That did not work in the WAC. (I know, I married one)
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
LOL! Well, here's an example of an effective all female unit. https://greydynamics.com/jegertroppen-norways-all-female-special-operation-forces/
Jegertroppen: Norway's All Female Special Operation Forces
The Jegertroppen is the first all-female military special forces unit in the world and is part of the Norwegian Special Operation Forces.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
MAJ Montgomery Granger - Thanks, but that is in Norway, not the US military. As I posted, we had 36 years of a segregated Army and the female soldiers were still treated as second-class troops. It took integration to bring them up to equality. (not sure they are accepted as equal yet)
Let's not go backward.
Let's not go backward.
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