Indirect Fire Infantryman (Mortarman)
Indirect Fire Infantryman (Mortarman)
Posted on Mar 27, 2020
As an 11C looking to reclass, what advice do you have on how I should approach the process? How does the process work?
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Have a couple questions on Medical Re class? I have had two surgeries on my Meniscus in my knee, after the second one they said it was not my Meniscus anymore. They said I will be diagnosed with early Arthritis. They asked me if I wanted to do a permanent profile and look into medically reclassing. I said no at the time I had orders to Fort Stewart and I didn’t want to mess those orders up, I wanted to see if I could continue to do my job and just work with the pain every now and then. Well I can’t deal with the pain anymore so when I get back, I’m going to go back to the doc and look into the Medical Reclassing. So just wanting to see if any other 11C or combat job has done this before and have advice on how to approach this and how the process works. I compared my scores on my ERB to see what options I have if they are available so also wanting to see on the jobs works as well.
Reclass
11C: Indirect Fire Infantryman (Mortarman)
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You have to return to your provider to get a new permanent profile recommending medical reclass. The Army chooses your new MOS. You can search any of my responses under the title of MAR2 for a more in depth explanation of the process
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January 27, 2020 HRC
The MAR2 has replaced the MMRB to better enhance the Army's ability to maintain a quality force by ensuring Soldiers are physically qualified to perform their PMOS in a worldwide deployed environment or field condition. MAR2 provides commanders a process to identify Soldiers who have medical limitations and require an administrative review to determine if the Soldier meets their PMOS standards in a worldwide field or austere environment.
The MAR2 program will ensure that every Soldier and Officer who is issued a P3 or P4 profile has an administrative review to see if the physical limitations on their profile prohibits them from performing in their current PMOS/AOC. In the past, individuals who were issued a permanent profile would go months, or even years, before they would go through the MMRB process. Additionally, individuals who would need to be placed in another job would have to wait for MMRB results to be sent forward for administrative action.
The MAR2 Program is no longer managed via MILPER message. Regulatory guidance is located in AR 635-40, chapter 3 and processing guidance is in DA PAM 635-40, chapter 2.
The easiest way to understand the MAR2 process is to break it down into steps as seen below.
STEP 1: The Soldier or Officer receives a permanent profile (DA Form 3349) with a 3 or 4 listed in any of the PULHES. The PULHES codes can be found in section 2 of the DA Form 3349.
STEP 2: The Installation Retention Office collects these profiles from either the Patient Administration Division (PAD) at the local Military Treatment Facility (MTF) or through a system known as eProfile.
STEP 3: The Installation Retention Office then screens the profile to ensure it clearly indicates physical limitations. If the profile is not clear, the profile will be referred back to the MTF. If the profile is clear then it will be sent down to the unit so a MAR2 packet can be generated. The suspense for packet submission is 14 duty days.
STEP 4: The BDE/BN Career Counselor will receive the profile and assist in the completing the MAR2 packet. There are some slight differences in packets for Soldiers versus Officers. For instance, Soldiers will receive a counseling statement outlining the details of the MAR2 program whereas Officers will not. The Career Counselor is the subject matter expert on MAR2 packets and should be the primary source for any questions.
STEP 5: Once the packet is complete, the BDE/BN Career Counselor will forward the entire packet back to the Installation Retention Office who will in turn verify the packet is complete and forward it to the Human Resources Command (HRC) at Ft Knox. Packets are sent digitally to ensure there is no delay.
STEP 6: HRC performs an administrative review of the packet based on the limitations of the profile as stated by the doctor, the Soldier's statement, the commander's statement and any additional documentation. Remember, the limitations have already been stated by the doctor; the MAR2 is simply an admin review based on the facts as stated on the documents contained in the MAR2 packet. These facts will determine if the Soldier/Officer will be:
* Retained in current PMOS/AOC.
* Reclassified to another MOS/AOC (HRC will schedule training and assignment for individuals being reclassed).
* Referred to the Medical Evaluation Board (MEB).
STEP 7: Once the decision is made by HRC, the results will be immediately sent back to the installation for distribution to the command. HRC will also update all the personnel codes on the Soldier's/Officer's record with the MAR2 results.
REMEMBER: The Career Counselor is the primary source of information for the MAR2 Program.
For questions regarding Regular Army Soldiers, forward the grade, full name, last four of SSN, and MOS in an e-mail request to the HRC Reclassification Team or call [login to see] or DSN 983-5915
The MAR2 has replaced the MMRB to better enhance the Army's ability to maintain a quality force by ensuring Soldiers are physically qualified to perform their PMOS in a worldwide deployed environment or field condition. MAR2 provides commanders a process to identify Soldiers who have medical limitations and require an administrative review to determine if the Soldier meets their PMOS standards in a worldwide field or austere environment.
The MAR2 program will ensure that every Soldier and Officer who is issued a P3 or P4 profile has an administrative review to see if the physical limitations on their profile prohibits them from performing in their current PMOS/AOC. In the past, individuals who were issued a permanent profile would go months, or even years, before they would go through the MMRB process. Additionally, individuals who would need to be placed in another job would have to wait for MMRB results to be sent forward for administrative action.
The MAR2 Program is no longer managed via MILPER message. Regulatory guidance is located in AR 635-40, chapter 3 and processing guidance is in DA PAM 635-40, chapter 2.
The easiest way to understand the MAR2 process is to break it down into steps as seen below.
STEP 1: The Soldier or Officer receives a permanent profile (DA Form 3349) with a 3 or 4 listed in any of the PULHES. The PULHES codes can be found in section 2 of the DA Form 3349.
STEP 2: The Installation Retention Office collects these profiles from either the Patient Administration Division (PAD) at the local Military Treatment Facility (MTF) or through a system known as eProfile.
STEP 3: The Installation Retention Office then screens the profile to ensure it clearly indicates physical limitations. If the profile is not clear, the profile will be referred back to the MTF. If the profile is clear then it will be sent down to the unit so a MAR2 packet can be generated. The suspense for packet submission is 14 duty days.
STEP 4: The BDE/BN Career Counselor will receive the profile and assist in the completing the MAR2 packet. There are some slight differences in packets for Soldiers versus Officers. For instance, Soldiers will receive a counseling statement outlining the details of the MAR2 program whereas Officers will not. The Career Counselor is the subject matter expert on MAR2 packets and should be the primary source for any questions.
STEP 5: Once the packet is complete, the BDE/BN Career Counselor will forward the entire packet back to the Installation Retention Office who will in turn verify the packet is complete and forward it to the Human Resources Command (HRC) at Ft Knox. Packets are sent digitally to ensure there is no delay.
STEP 6: HRC performs an administrative review of the packet based on the limitations of the profile as stated by the doctor, the Soldier's statement, the commander's statement and any additional documentation. Remember, the limitations have already been stated by the doctor; the MAR2 is simply an admin review based on the facts as stated on the documents contained in the MAR2 packet. These facts will determine if the Soldier/Officer will be:
* Retained in current PMOS/AOC.
* Reclassified to another MOS/AOC (HRC will schedule training and assignment for individuals being reclassed).
* Referred to the Medical Evaluation Board (MEB).
STEP 7: Once the decision is made by HRC, the results will be immediately sent back to the installation for distribution to the command. HRC will also update all the personnel codes on the Soldier's/Officer's record with the MAR2 results.
REMEMBER: The Career Counselor is the primary source of information for the MAR2 Program.
For questions regarding Regular Army Soldiers, forward the grade, full name, last four of SSN, and MOS in an e-mail request to the HRC Reclassification Team or call [login to see] or DSN 983-5915
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SGM Omer Dalton
A little off the topic. I retired from civil service 2004. My HRC Division managed MILPER messages. I authored many of these messages. I am amazed that this still is the method to manage regulatory/procedure requirement changes. Is it still that hard to publish changes to army publications?
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SGM Omer Dalton Good morning Sir. To be honest, I don't know if it's really that hard to make changes, but I guess if the method isn't broke, they won't fix or change it........
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