Posted on May 19, 2020
Wisconsin is starting to resemble a failed state — The Guardian
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This is an opinion piece by the Guardian who like the Times and Post here is so far left they are off the cliff...
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Holy Jesus, there is a lot to heckle in that article.
"Courts can overturn the will of the people and are undemocratic" - that is a particularly amazing statement coming from a liberal perspective. How many such rulings have they celebrated in the past several years.
"Rulings have consistently been against the rights of unionized workers, criminal defendents…" really? Seems to me that was legislation signed by the former governor that made Wisconsin a right to work state, and it would be "undemocratic" for the courts to overrule that. Not to worry; they didn't.
Bitching about Gerrymandering? Let's take a look at how districts are drawn in New York, California, or Illinois, while we're at it.
As for the Covid restrictions, the state Supreme Court ruled that a challenge to the endless duration of such orders was sustained. Frankly, it is hard for me to fathom how it is that abortion clinics and Target stay open, but churches and small retail can't. Last I looked, freedom of religion was in the Constitution.
At the end of the day, no matter how a court or governor rules on reopening businesses, we all still have the right to continue to self isolate. It seems like the world has turned on it's head.
"Courts can overturn the will of the people and are undemocratic" - that is a particularly amazing statement coming from a liberal perspective. How many such rulings have they celebrated in the past several years.
"Rulings have consistently been against the rights of unionized workers, criminal defendents…" really? Seems to me that was legislation signed by the former governor that made Wisconsin a right to work state, and it would be "undemocratic" for the courts to overrule that. Not to worry; they didn't.
Bitching about Gerrymandering? Let's take a look at how districts are drawn in New York, California, or Illinois, while we're at it.
As for the Covid restrictions, the state Supreme Court ruled that a challenge to the endless duration of such orders was sustained. Frankly, it is hard for me to fathom how it is that abortion clinics and Target stay open, but churches and small retail can't. Last I looked, freedom of religion was in the Constitution.
At the end of the day, no matter how a court or governor rules on reopening businesses, we all still have the right to continue to self isolate. It seems like the world has turned on it's head.
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SPC Erich Guenther
It was the State Supreme Court that properly overturned the Governor for extending his emergency powers via his "stay at home order" without a legislative vote. C'mon that doesn't pass in Venezuela, why would it pass in Wisconsin?
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SPC Erich Guenther
1SG (Join to see) - I know it is interesting though, everyone hates the Governor but likes the Milwaukee Mayor. Both are Democrats, one talks like an autocrat and the other like your Grandpa. They are still following the Milwaukee restrictions with little or no protests (go figure). So in my view the Governor of Wisconsin lacks leadership and people skills on how to talk to the larger population on this subject.
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MSgt Neil Greenfield
SSgt William Quinn Sorry, but this has nothing to do with taking away one’s freedom. This is a public health issue. Quarantining and isolation is a tool for the government to use to protect the overall citizen population. Quarantining and isolation is not about taking away our freedom, no matter how you spin it.
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SSgt William Quinn
MSgt Neil Greenfield - Can you please list that "tool" in the constitution? What article and what section? Thanks
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MSgt Neil Greenfield
SSgt William Quinn IANAL, but it would probably be covered under Martial Law, which is not explicitly mentioned in the Constitution. Look at Article 1, Section 9, suspension of habeas corpus. The Wisconsin State Constitution mirrors the US Constitution. See Article 1, Section 8.
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SSgt William Quinn
"The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it."
I just don't see a 99.2% survivable virus as a basis to take away anyone unalienable rights. Sorry.
I just don't see a 99.2% survivable virus as a basis to take away anyone unalienable rights. Sorry.
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