Posted on Jul 26, 2017
Trump to ban transgender people from all military service
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This is an absolutely terrible and abhorrent policy decision that goes against the values of the nation and the armed forces. I already hurt for our fellow servicemembers who just got disowned by the President.
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Jesse Bollar
I just want it to be fair to everyone. I am a taxpayer and as such why should I pay fro an active member to have an elective treatment that makes them unable to deploy "do the job they were hired for" because when it comes down to it military members are employed by the taxpayers or am I wrong.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
Jesse Bollar - They can transition without getting the reassignment surgery. They don't get to fully transition until their gender marker changes in DEERS. It usually takes up to a year and when their doctor approves it. But they don't have to have gender reassignment surgery to fully transition.
No the military is not employed by the taxpayers. We're all taxpayers too - so we employ ourselves? No we are employed by the Department of Defense. That's who we work for. We also are there to protect and defend the Constitution. Nowhere in my oath says that I protect individual citizens. Constitution and protecting American interests. That's the purpose of the US military.
I just said put the Koolaid down not my fault you took offense to it. You are drinking the Koolaid. Educate yourself outside of alt right and conservative outlets. I'd rather be a snowflake than anything else. Snowflakes are different, unique and when you get a lot of them together, cause a lot of damage if you think about a snowstorm. Avalanche. That's a lot of snowflakes combined together. So not sure why it's an insult honestly.
I see you don't know anyone transgender serving and I'm wondering are you even in the military or ever served at all?
No the military is not employed by the taxpayers. We're all taxpayers too - so we employ ourselves? No we are employed by the Department of Defense. That's who we work for. We also are there to protect and defend the Constitution. Nowhere in my oath says that I protect individual citizens. Constitution and protecting American interests. That's the purpose of the US military.
I just said put the Koolaid down not my fault you took offense to it. You are drinking the Koolaid. Educate yourself outside of alt right and conservative outlets. I'd rather be a snowflake than anything else. Snowflakes are different, unique and when you get a lot of them together, cause a lot of damage if you think about a snowstorm. Avalanche. That's a lot of snowflakes combined together. So not sure why it's an insult honestly.
I see you don't know anyone transgender serving and I'm wondering are you even in the military or ever served at all?
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Jesse Bollar
My entire family even my wife served. I couldn't join because of Asthma and childhood injuries. I do however know Trans individuals by sexual and have a Pan sexual daughter. So I understand these things I also warned my daughter who loves tattoos about keeping them above her elbows and below her collar line until she finds a career she wants because visible tattoos are not acceptable to many employers. I have a retail business with about 20 employees and there is a dress code and no visible tattoos no facial piercings things like that. So to say I haven't dealt with it is wrong. My daughter came out to me when she was 13 she was upset I could care less as long as she was ok. I don't hate them or suffer with some sort of disgust I just think that they need to meet the standards. If they meet the standards dress code medical everything then fine. I don't feel that an open trans male should be able to use female facilities until totally transitioned and vice versa that would be a distraction maybe not to you but I guarantee to others. So the military has to change how they do things to accomidate a few is crap.
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Jesse Bollar - Jesse, you are only "insulted" if you wish to insult yourself. MAJ Bryan Zeski insulted no one. Are you insulting all of the thousands of trans military members that Trump wants to ban from military service? Sounds like it if you think that MAJ Bryan Zeski has insulted you.
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I've seen this posted three times now...
It makes no sense when they've been openly serving for a year now. If they kick out the people who have been serving that's ridiculous and bs.
As stated this is just a tweet. He tweets a lot of bs. I think we need to see what Mattis says since he JUST gave the services six more months on full implementation.
It makes no sense when they've been openly serving for a year now. If they kick out the people who have been serving that's ridiculous and bs.
As stated this is just a tweet. He tweets a lot of bs. I think we need to see what Mattis says since he JUST gave the services six more months on full implementation.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
He can't unsay what he's said. He literally just told all of the our Transgender friends, allies, brothers and sisters who are serving that they aren't welcome in our ranks. Regardless of what comes from Mattis, this is a dark day for our nation and our service.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
MAJ Bryan Zeski - It is. It just shows he lied on the campaign trail when he said he was a great supporter of the LGBT community. If it is true and they start kicking people out that's even worse.
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