Posted on Jun 20, 2018
Trump signs executive order to stop family separations at border
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With basic googling, one would see there was no actually "law" they were pointing to. There was an agreement on the issue in 1997
"Under the 1997 settlement, DHS could detain unaccompanied children captured at the border for only 20 days before releasing them to foster families, shelters or sponsors, pending resolution of their immigration cases. The settlement was later expanded through other court rulings to include both unaccompanied and accompanied children"
But this is literally taking the wording and completely twisting it to suit the need to blame anyone to include past administrations. Sine that agreement, none of the last three presidents have bothered to follow it, but rather keep the family unit together which makes sense. Obama was chided for having children separated from their families while he was in office, but where that falls flat is where this administration is actively separating families, some conservative outlets lambast Obama for doing this but worse. They do not mention that Obama had a massive influx of children crossing without their parents which would easily skew the numbers to make it seem what is being done now, is nowhere hear as what was done them.
"The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 requires unaccompanied minors from countries other than Mexico and Canada to be placed in the care of the Office of Refugee Resettlement, or relatives in the U.S., while they go through removal proceedings. The bipartisan bill was approved by unanimous consent and signed by Bush". I actually agree with this. The minor can end up separated from immediate family for short while, but local services would work towards getting those kids into a foster, adopted, or with family members already in the US legally.
"The rumors correctly suggested that “family detention” as a whole came before the Trump administration, but as of August 2015 intact families at the border were rarely separated. Other iterations of the rumor held that the Obama administration separated more children from their parents than the Trump administration, a claim stemming from an inaccurate retelling of the fact that an influx of unaccompanied minors from Latin America crossed the border in from 2014 onward. In those instances, minor children primarily traveled without their parents"
Per Tucker Carlson, do not believe what MSM tells you. It's all full of hate, innuendo's, vitriol, with goals to separate the masses. Lets see if they can spin this around Tuck.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/
"Under the 1997 settlement, DHS could detain unaccompanied children captured at the border for only 20 days before releasing them to foster families, shelters or sponsors, pending resolution of their immigration cases. The settlement was later expanded through other court rulings to include both unaccompanied and accompanied children"
But this is literally taking the wording and completely twisting it to suit the need to blame anyone to include past administrations. Sine that agreement, none of the last three presidents have bothered to follow it, but rather keep the family unit together which makes sense. Obama was chided for having children separated from their families while he was in office, but where that falls flat is where this administration is actively separating families, some conservative outlets lambast Obama for doing this but worse. They do not mention that Obama had a massive influx of children crossing without their parents which would easily skew the numbers to make it seem what is being done now, is nowhere hear as what was done them.
"The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 requires unaccompanied minors from countries other than Mexico and Canada to be placed in the care of the Office of Refugee Resettlement, or relatives in the U.S., while they go through removal proceedings. The bipartisan bill was approved by unanimous consent and signed by Bush". I actually agree with this. The minor can end up separated from immediate family for short while, but local services would work towards getting those kids into a foster, adopted, or with family members already in the US legally.
"The rumors correctly suggested that “family detention” as a whole came before the Trump administration, but as of August 2015 intact families at the border were rarely separated. Other iterations of the rumor held that the Obama administration separated more children from their parents than the Trump administration, a claim stemming from an inaccurate retelling of the fact that an influx of unaccompanied minors from Latin America crossed the border in from 2014 onward. In those instances, minor children primarily traveled without their parents"
Per Tucker Carlson, do not believe what MSM tells you. It's all full of hate, innuendo's, vitriol, with goals to separate the masses. Lets see if they can spin this around Tuck.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/
FACT CHECK: Was the 'Law to Separate Families' Passed in 1997 or 'by Democrats'?
There is no federal law mandating children and parents be separated at the border; a policy resulting in that outcome was enacted in May 2018.
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That is odd. I wonder why so many children came to our borders during the Obama years. It's not like he invited them.
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SSG Warren Swan
MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi Trumps going to wind up in court over this. His EO would make it so that his directive is above the law, and that’s just not the case. I red the DOJ is going to take a stab at nullifying the agreement, but if it winds up tried in NY or the West coast federal courts, he’s in trouble until he appeals to the SCOTUS. Even though it’s a conservative court, it’ll be interesting to see how they throw this agreement away, and how it’ll reflect on Congress going into the midterms. Trump also didn’t help his case with the flip flopping regarding his support for the two bills after saying he would, and his follow on for the GOP to stop until the midterms. He’s hurting his own party, and you can’t blame Ryan for this one
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Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
The Federal Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act (CAPTA) (42 U.S.C.A. § 5106g), as amended by the CAPTA Reauthorization Act of 2010, defines child abuse and neglect as, at minimum:
"Any recent act or failure to act on the part of a parent or caretaker which results in death, serious physical or emotional harm, sexual abuse or exploitation";
There is no doubt that laws were violated, the question to us service member is what happens when you are given an illegal order when you know that it violates the US Constitution and Federal Law?
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
The Federal Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act (CAPTA) (42 U.S.C.A. § 5106g), as amended by the CAPTA Reauthorization Act of 2010, defines child abuse and neglect as, at minimum:
"Any recent act or failure to act on the part of a parent or caretaker which results in death, serious physical or emotional harm, sexual abuse or exploitation";
There is no doubt that laws were violated, the question to us service member is what happens when you are given an illegal order when you know that it violates the US Constitution and Federal Law?
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