Posted on Sep 17, 2024
Trump’s golf outings have long concerned Secret Service
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https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2024-09-16/trump-golf-risks-secret-service-15198847.html MY SAY: Of all the media organizations, leave it to left, liberal, anti-military, anti-Trump
Trump’s golf outings have long concerned Secret Service Stars and Stripes to completely blow OPSEC on the former President's Secret Service Security Detail, giving methods and particulars that would be of special interest to a would-be assassin. If Donald Trump is taken out while golfing, Stars & Stripes are culpable. Also, they make it seem as though the former President is responsible for the attempts on his life. He knew in 2015 that his life was at risk. He is willing to take the risks, obviously. Life is dangerous, and it's the SS job to make it as safe as possible, no thanks to S&S.
Trump’s golf outings have long concerned Secret Service Stars and Stripes to completely blow OPSEC on the former President's Secret Service Security Detail, giving methods and particulars that would be of special interest to a would-be assassin. If Donald Trump is taken out while golfing, Stars & Stripes are culpable. Also, they make it seem as though the former President is responsible for the attempts on his life. He knew in 2015 that his life was at risk. He is willing to take the risks, obviously. Life is dangerous, and it's the SS job to make it as safe as possible, no thanks to S&S.
Trump’s golf outings have long concerned Secret Service
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He doesn't smoke, he doesn't drink -- for vices, he's got burgers and golf -- the secret service just needs to deal with it
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Maj John Bell
SP5 Dennis Loberger - Please allow me to clarify. Nobody had much to say about Presidents Clinton and Obama's golf outings being a secret service security concern.
But president Obama did play golf 333 times in 8 years.
But president Obama did play golf 333 times in 8 years.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
Obama golfed only on military bases, specifically Andrews, where it was far more secured than Trump's private courses. Also he played 306 times in 8 years.
I'd assume Clinton mostly golfed on military bases too. I can't find much. He did participate in a PGA with Bush Sr and Ford in 95. I'm sure that was planned out for security.
I'd assume Clinton mostly golfed on military bases too. I can't find much. He did participate in a PGA with Bush Sr and Ford in 95. I'm sure that was planned out for security.
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Maj John Bell
"Obama played 333 rounds during his eight years as president, according to Knoller"
Source: CNN [See link below]
11 of the top 12 most frequently visited by President Obama were private courses
1 Andrews Air Force base
2 Farm Neck Golf Club, Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts
3 Ko’olau Golf Club, Oahu, Hawaii
4 Mid-Pacific Country Club, Oahu, Hawaii
5 Torrey Pines Golf Course, San Diego
6 Shadow Creek Golf Course, Las Vegas, Nevada, California
7 The Floridian, Palm City, Florida
8 Belle Haven Country Club, Alexandria, Virginia
9 Congressional Country Club, Bethesda, Maryland (Don't be fooled by the name, it's a private club
10 Martha’s Vineyard Golf Club, Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts
11 Wai’alae Country Club, Honolulu, Hawaii
12 TPC Potomac at Avenel Farm, Potomac, Maryland
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/25/politics/fact-check-trump-obama-golf/index.html
Source: CNN [See link below]
11 of the top 12 most frequently visited by President Obama were private courses
1 Andrews Air Force base
2 Farm Neck Golf Club, Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts
3 Ko’olau Golf Club, Oahu, Hawaii
4 Mid-Pacific Country Club, Oahu, Hawaii
5 Torrey Pines Golf Course, San Diego
6 Shadow Creek Golf Course, Las Vegas, Nevada, California
7 The Floridian, Palm City, Florida
8 Belle Haven Country Club, Alexandria, Virginia
9 Congressional Country Club, Bethesda, Maryland (Don't be fooled by the name, it's a private club
10 Martha’s Vineyard Golf Club, Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts
11 Wai’alae Country Club, Honolulu, Hawaii
12 TPC Potomac at Avenel Farm, Potomac, Maryland
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/25/politics/fact-check-trump-obama-golf/index.html
Fact check: Trump has spent far more time at golf clubs than Obama had at same point | CNN...
Criticized for golfing twice on a Memorial Day weekend during which the US coronavirus death toll approached 100,000, President Donald Trump responded Sunday and Monday by drawing attention, again, to former President Barack Obama’s golfing.
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Seriously? You're mad at this? The dude knows his golf courses aren't secure. The Secret Service can't secure them. You'd think instead of making their job harder, he would use courses they can secure.
What OPSEC? There was no OPSEC in this article at all. An alleged "would be assassin" already GOT ON the course. Allegedly. So Stripes didn't release anything the media doesn't already know - as stated in the article the media already can take pics of him with telephoto lenses on the public roads.
He IS responsible. He wasn't supposed to even be at that golf course so they had to scramble for security to get set up there. "He knew in 2015 his life was at risk." How? His life wasn't risked in 2015. He hasn't even had it risked now. I love how his ear is magically healed when he was allegedly grazed by a bullet...no marks. No scabs. No scar. No missing piece. Nothing. And then this other guy? First I heard about it was two people arguing outside the course on the street, not targeted at Trump, and shot at each other. Then an hour later, it's suddenly an alleged assassin.
ALso interesting is how the first "attempt" happened after his disaster debate with Biden. (Yeah they both did bad) and then this happens after a second disaster debate and the day JD Vance says they make up stories.
He doesn't care about "risks" and all he wanst to be President for is to get out of trouble. He doesn't care about the people of this country or the military at all.
What OPSEC? There was no OPSEC in this article at all. An alleged "would be assassin" already GOT ON the course. Allegedly. So Stripes didn't release anything the media doesn't already know - as stated in the article the media already can take pics of him with telephoto lenses on the public roads.
He IS responsible. He wasn't supposed to even be at that golf course so they had to scramble for security to get set up there. "He knew in 2015 his life was at risk." How? His life wasn't risked in 2015. He hasn't even had it risked now. I love how his ear is magically healed when he was allegedly grazed by a bullet...no marks. No scabs. No scar. No missing piece. Nothing. And then this other guy? First I heard about it was two people arguing outside the course on the street, not targeted at Trump, and shot at each other. Then an hour later, it's suddenly an alleged assassin.
ALso interesting is how the first "attempt" happened after his disaster debate with Biden. (Yeah they both did bad) and then this happens after a second disaster debate and the day JD Vance says they make up stories.
He doesn't care about "risks" and all he wanst to be President for is to get out of trouble. He doesn't care about the people of this country or the military at all.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
You are confused. I don't understand how you think any of this. It's as if you live on another planet, in an alternate universe. OP SEC is when you keep your mouth shut about methods and protocols regarding the security of a protected person. Stars & Stripes spilled a lot of beans in the article. I am not pointing them out because OP SEC. You want to remember, then re-read the article. Way too much information. Test? Pretend they were supposed to be protecting your wife or kids. Now, with that same hypothetical, re-read your response. Get me?
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
MAJ Montgomery Granger - Dude I was in S2 half my career. I know what OPSEC is. There was no OPSEC in that article.
That's also NOT what OPSEC is:
"Operations Security (OPSEC) is a process and strategy that protects sensitive information from adversaries. It involves identifying critical information, analyzing threats, and developing countermeasures to safeguard that information.
OPSEC is used to protect sensitive information in corporate systems and operations. It can help identify actions that could inadvertently reveal sensitive data to cyber criminals.
OPSEC involves looking at systems and operations from the perspective of a potential attacker. This can help identify issues that might be overlooked and implement countermeasures to keep data secure.
Some examples of OPSEC mistakes include: Oversharing personal information online, Leaving unused social media profiles online, and Accidentally interacting with a target on social media"
"OPSEC stands for Operational Security and is a term derived from the United States Military. Since its introduction, OPSEC has been adopted by many organizations and sectors to safeguard sensitive information in various contexts beyond the military. The objective of OPSEC is to prevent sensitive information from getting into the hands of an adversary, primarily by denying access to the data. First, we want to identify the data that can be compromised and then take steps to reduce the exploitation of this data and minimize the risk."
OPSEC is an analytical process that entails assessing potential threats, vulnerabilities, and risks to sensitive information.
The five-step OPSEC process:
Identify sensitive data - understand what your sensitive information might be.
Threat Assessment - identify potential cybersecurity threats, i.e., think of what adversaries could exploit about you.
Vulnerability analysis - identify where you are vulnerable and/or weaknesses in security.
Risk assessment - measure the level of risk to do with each previously identified vulnerability.
Apply countermeasures - develop countermeasures to minimize the identified risks.
Trump's activity on his PUBLIC golf courses is not sensitive in anyway. Even if it's a "private" golf course, it's still public when it's right by a public street. This is why Obama golfed at military bases. Lots more security.
Again the article posted even said that news sources can take pictures of him FROM THE STREET outside the course. That's not very secure...
Don't come at me talking about security when I was a security manager for about half my career and I just spent 2 years doing it for a division and was 2 years in the SSO.
This is probably the dumbest thing I've read on here in a while.
That's also NOT what OPSEC is:
"Operations Security (OPSEC) is a process and strategy that protects sensitive information from adversaries. It involves identifying critical information, analyzing threats, and developing countermeasures to safeguard that information.
OPSEC is used to protect sensitive information in corporate systems and operations. It can help identify actions that could inadvertently reveal sensitive data to cyber criminals.
OPSEC involves looking at systems and operations from the perspective of a potential attacker. This can help identify issues that might be overlooked and implement countermeasures to keep data secure.
Some examples of OPSEC mistakes include: Oversharing personal information online, Leaving unused social media profiles online, and Accidentally interacting with a target on social media"
"OPSEC stands for Operational Security and is a term derived from the United States Military. Since its introduction, OPSEC has been adopted by many organizations and sectors to safeguard sensitive information in various contexts beyond the military. The objective of OPSEC is to prevent sensitive information from getting into the hands of an adversary, primarily by denying access to the data. First, we want to identify the data that can be compromised and then take steps to reduce the exploitation of this data and minimize the risk."
OPSEC is an analytical process that entails assessing potential threats, vulnerabilities, and risks to sensitive information.
The five-step OPSEC process:
Identify sensitive data - understand what your sensitive information might be.
Threat Assessment - identify potential cybersecurity threats, i.e., think of what adversaries could exploit about you.
Vulnerability analysis - identify where you are vulnerable and/or weaknesses in security.
Risk assessment - measure the level of risk to do with each previously identified vulnerability.
Apply countermeasures - develop countermeasures to minimize the identified risks.
Trump's activity on his PUBLIC golf courses is not sensitive in anyway. Even if it's a "private" golf course, it's still public when it's right by a public street. This is why Obama golfed at military bases. Lots more security.
Again the article posted even said that news sources can take pictures of him FROM THE STREET outside the course. That's not very secure...
Don't come at me talking about security when I was a security manager for about half my career and I just spent 2 years doing it for a division and was 2 years in the SSO.
This is probably the dumbest thing I've read on here in a while.
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