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Cpl Joshua Caldwell
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WTF is wrong with this kids parents????? A girl on roids is still a girl. In this case, the girl juiced and got an unfair advantage over all of the normal girls. This just plain sucks.
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Cpl Jeff N.
Cpl Jeff N.
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The girls that played by the rules got screwed by the system. Some lost a match or the possibility of a state title at the alter of political correctness. This incident is only the tip of the iceberg on this topic. Why would a girl taking PED's be allowed to compete against other girls not taking them? Any other girl that was tested for these would have been disqualified but not our little snowflake. She gets to take PED's and compete. Something no one else would be (or should be) allowed to do.
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SGT Gunner
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This I can answer, having been around transgender people. This was originally a female that is in the process of undergoing a gender reassignment surgery. Therefor HE has to take testosterone to do that. But according to the rules for the wrestling associating that he wrestles for, you can only wrestle that gender type that identify with what is written on your birth certificate. I.e. Born a girl, wrestle girls. Born a boy, wrestle boys. No it is not fair for the females nor the boy that is changing to a male, mainly because he is trying to establish his place among males.
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SGT Gunner
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Unfortunately I'm not certain, I think it goes by state. The only thing that can really be changed after the whole process is complete is your state issued driver's license. As far as birth certificates go it stays the same because that is what you were born as.
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SFC J Fullerton
SFC J Fullerton
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There seems to too much concern with a person's genitalia. Isn't a persons privates private? Was his testosterone levels above that of other boys his age? He was forced to compete with the girls because of his birth certificate, not to cheat and win a girls wrestling title. He has every right to compete in high school athletics like any other kid his age. I don't think it is right that people like him cannot be recognized for who they are until after a surgical operation. What is in their pants is nobody's business.
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SGT Gunner
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SFC J Fullerton I completely agree with you. But, trying to understand for understanding is understandable. It helps to understand the hardships that these people go through.
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SFC Scott Parkhurst
SFC Scott Parkhurst
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PO2 Robert M. - First of all, as you know....there is no such thing as a dumb/stupid question. A transgender person does not have to change their birth cert. if they do not want to. And it's not even law to have to change their DMV but it's very highly advisable!! It takes a few forms to be filled out by MD's and their surgeons (if they had surgery) depending on the State and also their psychologist. Then they have to pay a high fee to change their name and gender. After a Judge grants them yes, then they can go to the DMV and legally get their drivers lic. Changed. They do go through an awful lot of ropes and pain to change their lives and I respect that. What I don't care for is if one expects to be treated "differently" and wants extra attention etc. And in this wrestling case I feel that this male teenager knowing that he is transgender and even though he so loves the sport....he should have either fought for the chance to be on the guys team and or (what I would have done), is bowed out painfully and perhaps found another sport. But you just cannot have it both ways....
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Cpl Software Engineer
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This is exactly why the transgender argument is so volatile. "Identifying" as a gender doesn't make it biological fact. Pedophiles and cheats will use the laws to get an advantage they wouldn't normally have. It's ludicrous to think a human being wouldn't take advantage of these personal choices given the opportunity.
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SN Greg Wright
SN Greg Wright
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And that's the crux of it right there: biological fact. The biological fact is that if he (??) competed against the boys he'd get his breakfast handed to him. Those pesky biological facts that give natural-born boys more dense muscles, bones, and greater lung capacity...issues that wouldn't be overcome with this injections, unlike in the girls' pool. How the hell is this even fair to OTHER girls...?!!
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