Posted on Oct 23, 2016
Strict gun laws ended mass shootings in Australia
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I prefer the 200-year-old US Constitution over any type of government on any day.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
Well said SPC Harsh. Regarding the topic's article "food fight" in support of both arguments and all the stats I share Mark Twain. He stated this and attributed it to Disraeli but it was originally voiced in 1895 in an article by Leonard H. Courtney:
"Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Mark Twain's Own Autobiography: The Chapters from the North American Review
Meaning being that one can use context and other techniques to support any argument with whatever information is available, and it may not always give the truest conclusion. Bottom line for me is that all the arguments about framer's intent of right to bear arms, militia, current weapons vs. technology at the time and the rest just don't suffice. For me the ability to own weapons makes me sleep better at night given our political climate and division as a Nation. We can easily say "it won't happen here" but if all my freedoms as I know them are in jeopardy I prefer to be armed to at least fight for them if that should occur. It might be a losing battle but I'd prefer to go out on my feet than on my knees. Best Wishes to all.
"Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Mark Twain's Own Autobiography: The Chapters from the North American Review
Meaning being that one can use context and other techniques to support any argument with whatever information is available, and it may not always give the truest conclusion. Bottom line for me is that all the arguments about framer's intent of right to bear arms, militia, current weapons vs. technology at the time and the rest just don't suffice. For me the ability to own weapons makes me sleep better at night given our political climate and division as a Nation. We can easily say "it won't happen here" but if all my freedoms as I know them are in jeopardy I prefer to be armed to at least fight for them if that should occur. It might be a losing battle but I'd prefer to go out on my feet than on my knees. Best Wishes to all.
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If you lookin at the bottom of this list for the newer massacres, you will find mass murder by arson, blunt instrument, knife, AND guns. Illegalizing guns does not change people, only the means of their actions.
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LTC (Join to see)
I agree as in Canada we had a we had a double homicide by crossbow we've also had lots of stabbings and you will see in front of skanky bars no knives. Anybody so they'll use whatever means necessary druggies whatever and we have extra strict gun laws and criminals have AK-47 AR-15 magazines and all kinds of firearms so it doesn't stop them here in Alberta Canada Australia is lucky or they're not telling you the full story.
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PFC Jim Wheeler
LTC (Join to see) - Australia also has the benefit of being an island without any neighboring countries. We could ban firearms here, but just like drugs, they could always just come across the border.
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CW3 Harvey K.
PFC Harry Leuchen - Then there was that guy in Nice, FR. He killed 80 with a truck, easy as pie.
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Your cherry picked data doesn't represent a complete picture at all. Give this a read if your close minded nature can fathom it. http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article_ID=17847 If you want a good middle ground article that makes total sense read this one. http://www.mintpressnews.com/the-facts-that-neither-side-wants-to-admit-about-gun-control/207152/
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
Excellent article, and strangely many of the same arguments I've used in the past including "you can make a gun out of a shovel." (from home depot).
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PFC Rickey Cook
living in the outback the murder rate is higher and more violent than when we owned firearms
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