Posted on Aug 27, 2022
Forcing Churches To Pay for Abortions Is Unconstitutional, California Federal Court Rules -...
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This is wrong, wrong, wrong! It breaks the rule of law about separation of church & state and in my view will bring us one step further into Marxist Communism imho!
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
Not only breaking the rules about a Separation of Church and State but 100% wrong and an unlawful order from a real nut job, out of control Governor out to control everything and everybody. .
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CMSgt Marcus Falleaf
I don't think there is a law of separation of church and state. Just a politicized interpretation that was handed down.
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CMSgt Marcus Falleaf - Your comment piqued my interest, so I just looked this subject up and here is what I found, Marcus... Here is what the First Amendment states in the Establishment Clause:
“CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF…”
THE INTENT OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WAS TO PROTECT RELIGION FROM GOVERNMENT AND NOT TO EXCLUDE AND SEPARATE RELIGION FROM GOVERNMENT. I Haven't gone any farther in researching it, but it was my understanding that our Constitution protected Religion from the overreach to demand compliance under duress..
I may check this out further...
“CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF…”
THE INTENT OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WAS TO PROTECT RELIGION FROM GOVERNMENT AND NOT TO EXCLUDE AND SEPARATE RELIGION FROM GOVERNMENT. I Haven't gone any farther in researching it, but it was my understanding that our Constitution protected Religion from the overreach to demand compliance under duress..
I may check this out further...
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Separation of church and state keeps religion out of government, it doesn't necessarily mean that government can't govern religious beliefs.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Maj John Bell Could be, the point is they bow to what the government tells them to do.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Maj John Bell There are religions that believe human life doesn't exist until it is born and the concept that life begins at conception is pretty radical. We had a pretty conservative compromise on the issue until the extreme radicals caught the car. Now I think the voters will make that decision and it won't be what the radicals want.
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Maj John Bell
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - As I said my beliefs about abortion are not based on my faith. I fall into that category you define as radical.
I define existence at a particular instant in time. You define it somewhere else. A healthy fertilized human ovum in a healthy woman will not be born a carrot or a parrot or a rock. Life is a spectrum. I think it is morally perilous to arbitrarily pick some point in the middle and say, "I don't want you around anymore, so I end you."
I fully expect that society will establish limits outside what I think is right. That will not change me from voting my conscience.
I define existence at a particular instant in time. You define it somewhere else. A healthy fertilized human ovum in a healthy woman will not be born a carrot or a parrot or a rock. Life is a spectrum. I think it is morally perilous to arbitrarily pick some point in the middle and say, "I don't want you around anymore, so I end you."
I fully expect that society will establish limits outside what I think is right. That will not change me from voting my conscience.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Maj John Bell And I respect that. You and I will never agree on this issue and I support it for reasons beyond the faith that seems to have enveloped the issue. I for one do believe, for a number of reasons, that a woman does have the right to say at some point "I don't want you around anymore" up until the time medical science says the fetus is viable and could survive outside the womb.
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